The Old Testament preshadows the NewPosted 2 years Ago
Harikrish they are waiting for their Missiah.
So explain Ezekiel 36 :25-27 & Acts 2:38
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The Old Testament preshadows the NewPosted 2 years Ago
Ezekiel 36 :25
I will sprinkle clean water on you, And you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols.
26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.
Acts2:38
Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, Every one of you, In the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
I will sprinkle clean water on you, And you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols.
26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.
Acts2:38
Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, Every one of you, In the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
CATHOLICS, abused by your PEDOPHILE Priests?!Posted 3 years Ago
At 7/5/2018 10:57:22 PM, annanicole wrote:At 7/5/2018 10:23:37 PM, Dogknox wrote:
THE CHURCH KEEPS THE TRUTH STRONG!!! (above)
annanicole 32 I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord's affairs "how he can please the Lord.
The married ministers of the "churches of Christ" is NOT concerned with God' affairs! Proving the LIE of the "churches of Christ" Jesus established ONE CHURCH not many!!! Paul tells the "churches of Christ" the married ministers are NOT concerned with God' affairs!
"I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH" One CHURCH (singular) NO PLACE can you find Jesus' words telling us, he has many bodies!
Ephesians 4:5
one Lord, one faith, one baptism;
1 Corinthians 10:17
No matter how many of us there are, we all eat from the same loaf, showing that we are all parts of the one body of Christ.
Matthew 16:18 ICB
So I tell you, you are Peter. And I will build my church on this rock. The power of death will not be able to defeat my church.
The CHURCH WILL NEVER FAIL!
Matthew 16:18 NTE
And I"ve got something to tell you, too: you are Peter, the rock, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell won"t overpower it.
you are Peter, the rock
Matthew 16:18 VOICE
This is why I have called you Peter (rock): for on this rock I will build My church. The church will reign triumphant even at the gates of hell.
The church will reign triumphant It will never ever fail!
Again, you will note that this was the question:
The passage(s) other than I Tim 3: 15-16 which teach, either directly or by implication, that the church is the pillar, foundation, or ground of the truth is/are _____________________________________________ .
So far, you haven't provided a single passage.
John 20:19
On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jewish leaders, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you!"
20 After he said this, he showed them his hands and side. The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord.
21 Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you."
annanicole Jesus SENT THE APOSTLES! They (The Apostles) were given AUTHORITY to "GO OUT"; Jesus sent them out on his AUTHORITY, The BODY OF CHRIST WAS SENT OUT!!
The Father SENT Jesus.... Jesus SENT The Apostles on the same MISSION; To save the world! As the Father has sent me, "I am sending you."
John 20:22
And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit.
annanicole The Holy Spirit was received by the CHURCH BEFORE Pentecost... The Holy Spirit was given to the Apostles the FOUNDATION of the CHURCH before Pentecost!
"Receive the Holy Spirit"
John 5:24
"Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.
annanicole The CHURCH saved people by TEACHING the words of Jesus!
The APOSTLS Taught orally the words of Jesus there was NO bible! They taught TRADITIONS!
1 Corinthians 11:2
I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you.
annanicole traditions just as I passed them on to you!!
Orally the CHURCH TAUGHT.. there was no bible! There was no New Testament!
The CHURCH taught ORALLY TRADITIONS; and these TRADITIONS were passed on down through the ages! Jesus taught orally he passed on to his Holy Church TRADITIONS to be taught!
annanicole The CHURCH believes the same things in all the world!
1 Corinthians 1:10
I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought.
annanicole Paul TAUGHT the same things to all the CHURCH Jesus established! ONE CHURCH ONE FAITH!!!!
Luke 10:16
"Whoever listens to you listens to me; whoever rejects you rejects me; but whoever rejects me rejects him who sent me."
CHURCH Taught & CHURCH SAVES! whoever rejects you rejects me
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John Gill's bible commentary
He that heareth you, heareth me
This is said for the encouragement of the seventy disciples, that though they would be rejected by some, they would be received by others, who would hear them, and embrace their doctrine, as if the Messiah himself had been among them; they looking upon them as representing him: and so Christ himself considers them as ambassadors in his name, and as representing his person, taking what is done to them, as done to himself; (See Gill on Matthew 10:40)
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FACT: The Holy Catholic Church represents Jesus, has done so for 2000 years!
The CHURCH is in heaven and on earth; Jesus gave her AUTHORITY before he ascended! As if Jesus himself was AMONG THEM they went out!!!
17 The seventy-two returned with joy and said, "Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name."
18 He replied, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.
19 I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you.
20 However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven."
annanicole verse 19 (above).. "Jesus gave AUTHORITY TO HIS CHURCH!" Before he ascended!
The CHURCH appointed elders in every town... Paul TAUGHT all the bodies of Christ the same in every town! Church has the AUTHORITY to TEACH given her by Jesus in person before he ascended!
Titus 1:5
The reason I left you in Crete was that you might put in order what was left unfinished and appoint elders in every town, as I directed you.
The CHURCH EXPANDED She GREW in number, teaching all them the same all taught ORALLY there was NO New Testament!
Acts 15 The Council at Jerusalem was settled by the CHURCH; They are representing God!
4 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.
Acts 15: 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements:
The Holy CHURCH though her council decided DOCTRINE!
CATHOLICS, abused by your PEDOPHILE Priests?!Posted 3 years Ago
At 7/5/2018 12:09:32 AM, annanicole wrote:At 7/4/2018 10:13:52 PM, Dogknox wrote:At 7/2/2018 7:10:35 PM, annanicole wrote:At 7/2/2018 5:46:46 PM, Dogknox wrote:At 7/2/2018 5:26:02 AM, annanicole wrote:At 7/2/2018 4:45:50 AM, Dogknox wrote:At 6/30/2018 5:24:00 PM, annanicole wrote:At 6/30/2018 3:44:37 PM, Dogknox wrote:At 6/29/2018 5:38:09 PM, annanicole wrote:At 6/29/2018 5:29:28 PM, Dogknox wrote:annanicole Your punctuation is NOT what EXPERT Scripture interpreters use!
"Expert scripture interpreters"? Well, if I Tim 3: 15 means that the church itself is the "pillar and ground of the truth", then some other passages ought to teach the same concept. There aren't any.
The "pillar and ground" of the truth is embodied in Peter's statement, "Thou are the Christ, the Son of the living God" - and the associated facts: the life, death, burial, resurrection, and ascension. In other words, that IS Jesus Christ and all that He accomplished. That's why, despite your feeble efforts, "The pillar and ground of the truth, and without controversy great, is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. THAT is the bedrock, the support, the underpinning upon which the entire scheme of redemption stands.
All of the chapter 1 Timothy 3 is about running "THE CHURCH!" It is not about who God is!
Paul is telling us about the importance of being celibate!
32 I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord"s affairs"how he can please the Lord.
33 But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world"how he can please his wife" 34 and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord"s affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world"how she can please her husband.
Paul is saying in 1 Timothy 3 "the church" is what holds up and holds firm the truth in the world.
This is how the chapter starts.... Paul is telling us how GOD's CHURCH IS TO BE RUN!
1 Here is a trustworthy saying: Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task.
2 Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
3 not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
Paul continues by telling us about "the church" is what holds up and holds firm the truth in the world.
15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God"s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.
you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God"s household
In other words.... "People should know how to conduct themselves IN GOD'S HOUSE"!
which is the church of the living God
In other words.... God' HOUSE is The CHURCH!
the pillar and foundation of the truth.
The context is: "The CHURCH.. God' ONE HOUSE is the Pillar and the foundation of truth!" "The church" is what holds up and holds firm the truth in the world.
annanicole ONE CHURCH, PAULS CHURCH IS GOD'S HOLY CHURCH with Celibate ministers! With unmarried men concerned about the Lord's affairs "how he can please the Lord".
You will not that this was the question:
The passage(s) other than I Tim 3: 15-16 which teach, either directly or by implication, that the church is the pillar, foundation, or ground of the truth is/are _____________________________________________ .
CEV 1 Timothy 3:15
so that if I am delayed, you will know how everyone who belongs to God"s family ought to behave. After all, the church of the living God is the strong foundation of truth
annanicole After all, the church of the living God is the strong foundation of truth
QUESTION what did God tell you in 1 Timothy 3:15?? What does the word "IS" do to the verse above?
ERV 1 Timothy 3:15
so that, even if I cannot come soon, you will know how people should live in the family of God. That family is the church of the living God. And God's church is the support and foundation of the truth
annanicole QUESTION... What is the SUPPORT AND FOUNDATION OF THE TRUTH? (above)
And God's church is the support and foundation of the truth
AND GOD'S CHURCH IS THE SUPPORT AND FOUNDATION OF TRUTH!
MSG 1 Timothy 3:15
I hope to visit you soon, but just in case I'm delayed, I"m writing this letter so you'll know how things ought to go in God's household, this God-alive church, bastion of truth.
annanicoleQUESTION: "What is the BASTION OF TRUTH"?!
God-alive church, bastion of truth
TPT 1 Timothy 3:15
But if I'm delayed in coming, you'll already have these instructions on how to conduct the affairs of the church of the living God, his very household and the supporting pillar and firm foundation of the truth.
annanicoleQUESTION: WHO'S HOUSEHOLD IS THE SUPPORTING PILLAR AND FIRM FOUNDATION OF THE TRUTH!
WE1 Timothy 3:15
Then if I do not come right away, you will know what people should do in God's family. This family is the church of the living God. The church people hold what is true and keeps it strong.
THE CHURCH KEEPS THE TRUTH STRONG!!! (above)
annanicole 32 I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord's affairs "how he can please the Lord.
The married ministers of the "churches of Christ" is NOT concerned with God' affairs! Proving the LIE of the "churches of Christ" Jesus established ONE CHURCH not many!!! Paul tells the "churches of Christ" the married ministers are NOT concerned with God' affairs!
"I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH" One CHURCH (singular) NO PLACE can you find Jesus' words telling us, he has many bodies!
Ephesians 4:5
one Lord, one faith, one baptism;
1 Corinthians 10:17
No matter how many of us there are, we all eat from the same loaf, showing that we are all parts of the one body of Christ.
Matthew 16:18 ICB
So I tell you, you are Peter. And I will build my church on this rock. The power of death will not be able to defeat my church.
The CHURCH WILL NEVER FAIL!
Matthew 16:18 NTE
And I"ve got something to tell you, too: you are Peter, the rock, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell won"t overpower it.
you are Peter, the rock
Matthew 16:18 VOICE
This is why I have called you Peter (rock): for on this rock I will build My church. The church will reign triumphant even at the gates of hell.
The church will reign triumphant It will never ever fail!
CATHOLICS, abused by your PEDOPHILE Priests?!Posted 3 years Ago
At 7/2/2018 7:10:35 PM, annanicole wrote:At 7/2/2018 5:46:46 PM, Dogknox wrote:At 7/2/2018 5:26:02 AM, annanicole wrote:At 7/2/2018 4:45:50 AM, Dogknox wrote:At 6/30/2018 5:24:00 PM, annanicole wrote:At 6/30/2018 3:44:37 PM, Dogknox wrote:At 6/29/2018 5:38:09 PM, annanicole wrote:At 6/29/2018 5:29:28 PM, Dogknox wrote:annanicole Your punctuation is NOT what EXPERT Scripture interpreters use!
"Expert scripture interpreters"? Well, if I Tim 3: 15 means that the church itself is the "pillar and ground of the truth", then some other passages ought to teach the same concept. There aren't any.
The "pillar and ground" of the truth is embodied in Peter's statement, "Thou are the Christ, the Son of the living God" - and the associated facts: the life, death, burial, resurrection, and ascension. In other words, that IS Jesus Christ and all that He accomplished. That's why, despite your feeble efforts, "The pillar and ground of the truth, and without controversy great, is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. THAT is the bedrock, the support, the underpinning upon which the entire scheme of redemption stands.
All of the chapter 1 Timothy 3 is about running "THE CHURCH!" It is not about who God is!
Paul is telling us about the importance of being celibate!
32 I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord"s affairs"how he can please the Lord.
33 But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world"how he can please his wife" 34 and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord"s affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world"how she can please her husband.
Paul is saying in 1 Timothy 3 "the church" is what holds up and holds firm the truth in the world.
This is how the chapter starts.... Paul is telling us how GOD's CHURCH IS TO BE RUN!
1 Here is a trustworthy saying: Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task.
2 Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
3 not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
Paul continues by telling us about "the church" is what holds up and holds firm the truth in the world.
15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God"s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.
you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God"s household
In other words.... "People should know how to conduct themselves IN GOD'S HOUSE"!
which is the church of the living God
In other words.... God' HOUSE is The CHURCH!
the pillar and foundation of the truth.
The context is: "The CHURCH.. God' ONE HOUSE is the Pillar and the foundation of truth!" "The church" is what holds up and holds firm the truth in the world.
annanicole ONE CHURCH, PAULS CHURCH IS GOD'S HOLY CHURCH with Celibate ministers! With unmarried men concerned about the Lord's affairs "how he can please the Lord".
the pillar and foundation of the truth
CATHOLICS, abused by your PEDOPHILE Priests?!Posted 3 years Ago
At 7/2/2018 6:46:45 PM, annanicole wrote:At 7/2/2018 5:46:46 PM, Dogknox wrote:
THERE is your "pillar and ground of the truth" - the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ - God manifest in the flesh, and the idea that both Jews and Gentiles could equally be citizens of the kingdom. The "church" is NOT - and never was - "the pillar and ground of the truth."
There is no difference in the meaning of "foundation" and "pillar and ground", and the result is the same: the foundation is Jesus Christ: God manifest in the flesh, seen and preached, and received up into glory.
ONE CHURCH!!!!!!!
The CHURCH of the Living God!!!! Singular!!!! NOT.....
annanicole not "CHURCHES"!!!!!
I never said there was or is more than one church.
"Churches" (Plural) more then one! "churches of Christ" teaches "MORE THEN ONE CHURCH"! Clearly you have placed your salvation is a LIE! Scriptures are very clear "Jesus established ONE CHURCH" (Singular) ONE CHURCH that cannot fail: FOUNDATION OF ROCK!
ABOVE SCRIPTURE... the church of the living God is the strong foundation of truth
WHO is the living God????? Jesus is!!!!
I doubt that that's a reference to Jesus Christ. Most likely it refers to God the Father.annanicole Your punctuation is NOT what EXPERT Scripture interpreters use! Scripture scholars tell you the CHURCH is the strong foundation of truth
1 Timothy 3:15
CEV so that if I am delayed, you will know how everyone who belongs to God"s family ought to behave. After all, the church of the living God is the strong foundation of truth.
Prove that my punctuation is wrong.
GOD'S HOLY WORD...After all, the church of the living God is the strong foundation of truth!PROVING YOU ARE WRONG!!!!
Huh? You didn't prove anything.
No, it isn't.YES IT IS.... You MUST REJECT Jesus to say Jesus did not say this! Scriptures are Jesus's words!! AGAIN.. After all, the church of the living God is the strong foundation of truth!
annanicole Scriptures tell you (above) "THE CHURCH is the strong foundation of truth"!
the church of the living God, which contains and holds high the truth of God.QUESTION What is the STRONG foundation???
TLB
so that if I don"t come for a while, you will know what kind of men you should choose as officers for the church of the living God, which contains and holds high the truth of God.
Give the scripture reference.
annanicole Lets see you TWIST THIS AROUND!!!!!! the church of the living God, which contains and holds high the truth of God.
And God's church is the support and foundation of the truth.ERV
so that, even if I cannot come soon, you will know how people should live in the family of God. That family is the church of the living God. And God"s church is the support and foundation of the truth.
annanicole And God's church is the support and foundation of the truth.
No, it isn't. The phrase "God's church" isn't even in the passage.
THE CHURCH is; God's church is the support and foundation of the truth.
YES IT IS: The Scholars of scripture interpretation tell you And God"s church is the support and foundation of the truth.
1 Timothy 3:15 ERV
so that, even if I cannot come soon, you will know how people should live in the family of God. That family is the church of the living God. And God"s church is the support and foundation of the truth.
GOD's CHURCH is the foundation of truth!
Lets see you twist this verse... And God"s church is the support and foundation of the truth.
annanicole You CANNOT TWIST IT SO YOU DENY IT!!! Ha-Ha!!!! To be a member of "churches of Christ" you must reject Jesus' words you MUST reject the scriptures!
1 Timothy 3:15 ERV is a VERSE!
I don't have to twist it. That's not a verse.
1 Timothy 3:15 MSGQUESTION.... WHAT IS GOD' CHURCH"????!!!! (above verse)
MSG
I hope to visit you soon, but just in case I"m delayed, I"m writing this letter so you"ll know how things ought to go in God"s household, this God-alive church, bastion of truth. This Christian life is a great mystery, far exceeding our understanding, but some things are clear enough: He appeared in a human body, was proved right by the invisible Spirit, was seen by angels. He was proclaimed among all kinds of peoples, believed in all over the world, taken up into heavenly glory.
QUESTION.... What is the BASTION OF TRUTH!!!!??? (above)
What is the "God ALIVE CHURCH!?"
annanicole You prove once again... The man made "churches of Christ" twists the scriptures to tell their lies!
They "churches of Christ" are the children of the FATER OF LIES! Satan also TWISTS God' words to teach his lies!
Jesus established ONE CHURCH..... to conduct themselves in God's household, which is the church of the living God,
Ummm ... I didn't twist anything. If I did, you certainly did a piss-poor job at demonstrating it.
I hope to visit you soon, but just in case I'm delayed, I'm writing this letter so you'll know how things ought to go in Gods household, this God-alive church, bastion of truth. This Christian life is a great mystery, far exceeding our understanding, but some things are clear enough: He appeared in a human body, was proved right by the invisible Spirit, was seen by angels. He was proclaimed among all kinds of peoples, believed in all over the world, taken up into heavenly glory.
annanicole QUESTION.... What is the BASTION OF TRUTH!!!!??? (above)
how things ought to go in Gods household, this God-alive church, bastion of truth. (above) the words of GOD!
ALL... EVERY SCHOLER puts the coma after the word "GOD"!
which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.
THUS the context is THE CHURCH is the Pillar and foundation of truth! It does NOT read.... God is the pillar and foundation of the CHURCH!
Conduct yourself in God CHURCH which is the household of the living God!!
CATHOLICS, abused by your PEDOPHILE Priests?!Posted 3 years Ago
At 7/2/2018 5:26:02 AM, annanicole wrote:At 7/2/2018 4:45:50 AM, Dogknox wrote:At 6/30/2018 5:24:00 PM, annanicole wrote:At 6/30/2018 3:44:37 PM, Dogknox wrote:At 6/29/2018 5:38:09 PM, annanicole wrote:At 6/29/2018 5:29:28 PM, Dogknox wrote:1 Timothy 3:15if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God"s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.
Since you are fond of misapplying this scripture - and there was no punctuation in the original Greek - I'll repunctuate it for you:
"But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God. The pillar and ground of the truth, and without great controversy, is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
THERE is your "pillar and ground of the truth" - the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ - God manifest in the flesh, and the idea that both Jews and Gentiles could equally be citizens of the kingdom. The "church" is NOT - and never was - "the pillar and ground of the truth."
There is no difference in the meaning of "foundation" and "pillar and ground", and the result is the same: the foundation is Jesus Christ: God manifest in the flesh, seen and preached, and received up into glory.
ONE CHURCH!!!!!!!
The CHURCH of the Living God!!!! Singular!!!! NOT.....
annanicole not "CHURCHES"!!!!!
WHO is the living God????? Jesus is!!!! the CHURCH (singular) of the LIVING God... CHURCH OF JESUS is the Only Church Jesus founded on ROCK 2000 years ago!!!
annanicole Your punctuation is NOT what EXPERT Scripture interpreters use! Scripture scholars tell you the CHURCH is the strong foundation of truth
1 Timothy 3:15
CEV so that if I am delayed, you will know how everyone who belongs to God"s family ought to behave. After all, the church of the living God is the strong foundation of truth.
PROVING YOU ARE WRONG!!!! After all, the church of the living God is the strong foundation of truth
QUESTION What is the STRONG foundation???
TLB
so that if I don"t come for a while, you will know what kind of men you should choose as officers for the church of the living God, which contains and holds high the truth of God.
annanicole Lets see you TWIST THIS AROUND!!!!!! the church of the living God, which contains and holds high the truth of God.
ERV
so that, even if I cannot come soon, you will know how people should live in the family of God. That family is the church of the living God. And God"s church is the support and foundation of the truth.
annanicole And God"s church is the support and foundation of the truth.
Lets see you twist this verse... And God"s church is the support and foundation of the truth.
QUESTION.... WHAT IS GOD' CHURCH"????!!!! (above verse)
MSG
I hope to visit you soon, but just in case I"m delayed, I"m writing this letter so you"ll know how things ought to go in God"s household, this God-alive church, bastion of truth. This Christian life is a great mystery, far exceeding our understanding, but some things are clear enough: He appeared in a human body, was proved right by the invisible Spirit, was seen by angels. He was proclaimed among all kinds of peoples, believed in all over the world, taken up into heavenly glory.
QUESTION.... What is the BASTION OF TRUTH!!!!??? (above)
What is the "God ALIVE CHURCH!?"
annanicole You prove once again... The man made "churches of Christ" twists the scriptures to tell their lies!
They "churches of Christ" are the children of the FATER OF LIES! Satan also TWISTS God' words to teach his lies!
Jesus established ONE CHURCH..... to conduct themselves in God's household, which is the church of the living God,
CATHOLICS, abused by your PEDOPHILE Priests?!Posted 3 years Ago
At 6/30/2018 5:24:00 PM, annanicole wrote:Jesus is the CORNERSTONE not the FOUNDATION!At 6/30/2018 3:44:37 PM, Dogknox wrote:At 6/29/2018 5:38:09 PM, annanicole wrote:At 6/29/2018 5:29:28 PM, Dogknox wrote:1) Foundation. comes first....FACT: Jesus built his Church on the FOUNDATION OF ROCK! God tells you "Jesus built his church o0n rock!!!"""""""..
What kind of nincompoop would sit there and declare that a building is erected first, and then the cornerstone is laid later?
DICTIONARY DOT COM
cornerstone
a stone representing the nominal starting place in the construction of a monumental building, usually carved with the date and laid with appropriate ceremonies. something that is essential, indispensable, or basic: The cornerstone of democratic government is a free press.
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FIRST THE FOUNDATION THEN THEY START THE CONSTRUSTION OF THE BUILDING.
But you said, "You need a building before you have a "Corner stone!". Can't you see up there that the cornerstone is the "nominal starting place in the construction of a monumental building." You flipped it and claimed that the building comes first, then the cornerstone is laid. That's absurd. Do you actually think before you type?
We'll do it this way: you said, "You need a building before you have a "Corner stone!". The dictionary says that the cornerstone is the starting point in the construction of the building. Which one of you has it right? It can't be both.
annanicole FACT.... First you establish the foundation then you start the construction of the building! NEVER EVER do you build a structure first then put it on a foundation!!!
I didn't ask about the foundation, did I? Nope, I asked which came first, the cornerstone or the building. You said the building came first, then they laid the cornerstone. The dictionary says that the cornerstone comes first, then the building. That's the polar opposite of what you said.
I asked which is correct, you or the dictionary? It can't be both.
You didn't answer.
FACT: Alexander Campbell taught; "God is STUPID" he taught Jesus' church failed! Joseph Smith also taught; Jesus failed, he taught GOD FAILED just as Alexander Campbell taught thus PROVING both are Satan's children!!
>>> Campbell was forced to reject God' holy words to teach; Jesus is stupid!<<<<
2) Construction includes a cornerstone!
annanicole Construction commences AFTER the foundation is laid!
The structure fails IF the Cornerstone fails!!!
annanicole QUESTION.... "Did Jesus fail"?!!!!
The structure fails IF the Cornerstone fails!!!
annanicole QUESTION.... "Did Jesus fail"?!!!!
A foundation of rock cannot fail... THUS>>>> The structure will not fail if the Cornerstone is firm!
The structure built on rock failsONLY IF the Cornerstone fails!!!
annanicole QUESTION.... "Did the cornerstone fail"?!!!!
Did Jesus build on sand or on Rock?!!!
Is Jesus' foundations ROCK or Sand!?
annanicole >>DID THE CONRERSTONE FAIL???
You needn't worry about the cornerstone or much of anything else when you don't know any better than to say, "You need a building before you have a "Corner stone!" No building then NO CORNER STONE!" Isn't that absurd?
I have little doubt that, Catholic or not, when you stand before the judgment bar, you'll be ushered right on into heaven - on the grounds of general unaccountability. In other words ... just too dumb to send to hell.
annanicole I said.. "You need a foundation before you have any construction!"
I said... "A Cornerstone is the start of the CONSTRUCTION of the building"!
What you said was this, copied and pasted directly: "You need a building before you have a "Corner stone!" No building then NO CORNER STONE!"
Jesus founded his Church on the Apostle's! Founded: The BASE of Jesus' Church started with the Apostles!
The foundation of the church is Jesus Christ Himself.
annanicole POST THE SCRIPTURES PLEASE! All you have done is prove your ignorance and your REJECTION of Jesus!
Ephesians 2:20
built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone.
The CHURCH is the foundation of TRUTH!
1 Timothy 3:15
if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God"s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.
Jesus' church cannot fail..." God"s solid foundation stands firm!
The FOUNDATION ARE THOSE WHO ARE HIS! The FOUNDATION is people!
2 Timothy 2:19
Nevertheless, God"s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: "The Lord knows those who are his," and, "Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness."
You are ROCK and on Peter I will build my CHURCH! The CHURCH IS BUILT ON PETER the APOSTLE it has a FOUNDATION OF PETER!
Matthew 7:25
The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock.
Jesus' APOSTLES are the FOUNDATION!
Revelation 21:14
The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
annanicole to be in your church the "churches of Christ" you MUST reject Jesus and his holy words as LIES!! You are child of the Father of lies! The Anti Christ attacks Jesus and his holy Bride!
The Catholic on the other hand believes in Jesus we accept his words as TRUTH! We believe the scriptures!
CATHOLICS, abused by your PEDOPHILE Priests?!Posted 3 years Ago
At 6/30/2018 5:28:42 PM, annanicole wrote:At 6/30/2018 4:06:06 PM, Dogknox wrote:At 6/29/2018 11:06:11 PM, annanicole wrote:The structure fails IF the Cornerstone fails!!!
annanicole QUESTION.... "Did Jesus fail"?!!!!
Who said anything about Jesus failing to establish His church? Not me! After all, He stated that the very gates to the Hadean world would not prevail against the church's establishment.
"Upon this rock", i. e. upon this fundamental and paramount truth that I am the promised Messiah and the Son of the Living God
"I will build", i. e. I will set up, I will firmly establish
"My church" - because it belongs to me, and I am the foundation and chief cornerstone of it.
"And the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it", i. e. My own death, at which time my spirit traverses the gates of the Hadean world, shall not prevent me from going right ahead and establishing my church.
OF COURSE I believe the Jesus established His church - and did so on the first Pentecost after His resurrection. You're the clown who has informed us of all sorts of times that Jesus established His church, and 'tis tough to find someone as thoroughly mixed up as you are. You've told us that it always existed. You've told us that He established it when He chose the twelve. You've told us He set it up before His death - then you told us He set it up after His death. The truth is that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Alexander Campbell said.. "Jesus failed"! He said "We have to Re-FORM the church Jesus built because it failed!"
Joseph Smith said.. "There is NO church left on earth" he said the same as Alexander Campbell said, "I must Re-FORM the Church"! "I Must RESTORE the Church!"
FACT... Historical documented FACT: Campbell was part of the Restoration Movement!
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restoration
1-the act of restoring; renewal, revival, or reestablishment.
2-the state or fact of being restored.
3-a return of something to a former, original, normal, or unimpaired condition.
4-restitution of something taken away or lost.
5-something that is restored, as by renovating.
6-a reconstruction or reproduction of an ancient building, extinct animal, or the like, showing it in its original state.
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A FOUNDATION OF ROCK MEANS THE STRUCTURE WILL NEVER FAIL!
The Holy Spirit is "FOREVER GUIDING the Church into all truth"!!!! The Holy Spirit came to the Apostles when they were given the Authority to remove sins!
The Holy Spirit came to the Whole Church on the first Pentecost never ever to leave... FOREVER WITH THE CHURCH! ALWAYS THERE AS A GUIDE!
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1- without ever ending; eternally:
2- to last forever.
3-continually; incessantly; always:
He's forever complaining.
4-lasting for an endless period of time:
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annanicole If Jesus did not fail then why are you saying the Church Jesus established is wrong.
The church isn't "anything" as far as right or wrong. The standard of things around here isn't what the higher-ups of this group or that group might claim. By that standard, I can prove anything. I'm saying that the Scriptures are right. Members of the church, individually or in groups, may err and fall away.
Certainly the Holy Spirit guides men. How? Through the Scriptures. We aren't dumb enough to claim some sort of miraculous, inexplicable, unintelligible, better-felt-than-explained, incomprehensible, and unprovable direct Holy Spirit guidance.
annanicole There was NO bible for the first 400 years... As the scriptures tell you: The Holy Spirit guides the CHURCH into ALL TRUTH; FOREVER GUIDING, this means GUIDING the Body of Jesus FOREVER!!
annanicole As the scriptures tell you: The Holy Spirit gave the CHURCH the POWER to TEACH for God, in GOD' holy
name !! As the scriptures tell you: When the Holy Spirit arrived, he did not form the Church he EMPOWERED THE CHURCH, Jesus had already formed his body on earth before he ascended!!
The Scriptures tell you "The CHURCH IS JESES' BODY!"
The Scriptures tell you: "Jesus cannot fail"!
annanicole The Scriptures tell you; "You are CONDEMNED"!
To say; "The Church Failed" is to say "The Body of Jesus died all over again"!
THE CHURCH IS THE BODY OF JESUS! The Church Jesus' holy Catholic Body lives forever, the Church Jesus formed is GUIDED INTO ALL TRUTH FOREVER!
God CANNOT FAIL!
Jesus goes out, he is SENT from God to establish a CHURCH on earth, he did not fail to do it! God wants a CHURCH so God builds a CHURCH, it is just that simple; the HOLY BODY of Jesus on earth is; The Catholic Church with Peter and the Apostles as FOUNDATION, with Jesus the central power!
Jesus (GOD) BUILT HIS CHURCH ON ROCK IT CANNOT FAIL!
The ONLY Church Jesus built was founded on the Apostles with ROCK as the foundation the CATHOLIC CHURCH CANNOT FAIL; IT DID NOT FAIL!!! The Catholic Church is 2000 years old with roots back to the Apostles!
Jesus established his Church before he ascended!
Jesus gave his CHURCH the AUTHORITY To TEACH ALL NATIONS!
Jesus gave his CHURCH the AUTHORITY To BAPTIZE ALL NATIONS!
Jesus gave his CHURCH the AUTHORITY To Remove or Retain sins!
Jesus gave his CHURCH the AUTHORITY To BIND and LOOSE on earth as well as in Heaven!
Jesus gave his CHURCH the AUTHORITY to "Feed his Holy Blameless Catholic Body True Manna from heaven"!
Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to his Holy Catholic Church on the first Pentecost to EMPOWER his Church as the Scriptures tell you! Jesus told his CHURCH to wait in Jerusalem until the Holy Spirit arrived, when the Holy Spirit arrived his ONE HOLY Church went out as COMMISSIONED to baptize and IMMERSED 3000 people into the Holy Catholic Body of Jesus that very day!
The Catholic CHURCH did not fail it CANNOT FAIL it is guided into ALL TRUTH by GOD FOREVER!
Mary "Mother of God"!
Mary "Mother of the King"!
Mary "Queen Mother"!
Mary "Queen of Heaven & Earth"!
Mary "Queen of Angels"!
Mary "Mother of the Church"!
Mary "Called Blessed by all Catholic' for the past 2000 years"!
Mary "Glorifies the Lord"!
CATHOLICS, abused by your PEDOPHILE Priests?!Posted 3 years Ago
At 6/29/2018 11:06:11 PM, annanicole wrote:At 6/29/2018 5:29:28 PM, Dogknox wrote:At 6/29/2018 4:40:36 PM, annanicole wrote:At 6/29/2018 2:38:42 PM, Dogknox wrote:At 6/28/2018 9:16:55 PM, annanicole wrote:At 6/28/2018 6:11:15 PM, Dogknox wrote:At 6/28/2018 6:42:52 AM, annanicole wrote:The structure fails IF the Cornerstone fails!!!
annanicole QUESTION.... "Did Jesus fail"?!!!!
Who said anything about Jesus failing to establish His church? Not me! After all, He stated that the very gates to the Hadean world would not prevail against the church's establishment.
"Upon this rock", i. e. upon this fundamental and paramount truth that I am the promised Messiah and the Son of the Living God
"I will build", i. e. I will set up, I will firmly establish
"My church" - because it belongs to me, and I am the foundation and chief cornerstone of it.
"And the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it", i. e. My own death, at which time my spirit traverses the gates of the Hadean world, shall not prevent me from going right ahead and establishing my church.
OF COURSE I believe the Jesus established His church - and did so on the first Pentecost after His resurrection. You're the clown who has informed us of all sorts of times that Jesus established His church, and 'tis tough to find someone as thoroughly mixed up as you are. You've told us that it always existed. You've told us that He established it when He chose the twelve. You've told us He set it up before His death - then you told us He set it up after His death. The truth is that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Alexander Campbell said.. "Jesus failed"! He said "We have to Re-FORM the church Jesus built because it failed!"
Joseph Smith said.. "There is NO church left on earth" he said the same as Alexander Campbell said, "I must Re-FORM the Church"! "I Must RESTORE the Church!"
FACT... Historical documented FACT: Campbell was part of the Restoration Movement!
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DICTIONARY DOT COM
restoration
1-the act of restoring; renewal, revival, or reestablishment.
2-the state or fact of being restored.
3-a return of something to a former, original, normal, or unimpaired condition.
4-restitution of something taken away or lost.
5-something that is restored, as by renovating.
6-a reconstruction or reproduction of an ancient building, extinct animal, or the like, showing it in its original state.
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A FOUNDATION OF ROCK MEANS THE STRUCTURE WILL NEVER FAIL!
The Holy Spirit is "FOREVER GUIDING the Church into all truth"!!!! The Holy Spirit came to the Apostles when they were given the Authority to remove sins!
The Holy Spirit came to the Whole Church on the first Pentecost never ever to leave... FOREVER WITH THE CHURCH! ALWAYS THERE AS A GUIDE!
"""""""""""".
DICTIONARY DOT COM
forever
1- without ever ending; eternally:
2- to last forever.
3-continually; incessantly; always:
He's forever complaining.
4-lasting for an endless period of time:
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annanicole If Jesus did not fail then why are you saying the Church Jesus established is wrong. You are a Hypocrite saying "Alex Campbell built the Church that Jesus could not build, that the Holy Spirit failed to guide!"
Why do you say "Jesus' flesh is symbolic when CHRISTIANS in the One Church Jesus established have always eaten the sacred flesh of Jesus! Why do you reject the words of Jesus that say when he returns "His Church will be worshipping him with music"!
