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backwardseden
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StevenCrowder
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A scenario: There's you a christian, Your very best friend, And a man with a shotgun all in one room

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Started: 4/28/2019 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Debating Period
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backwardseden

Con

Here's a scenario for you supposed christians: There's you, A gunman with a shotgun, And your very best friend in one room. The gunman is ready to blow your very best friend away unless you renounce your religion forever and you MUST mean it with true credibility and integrity forever until you die. Would you do it?
Yes____?
If the answer is "Yes" that you would renounce your faith, That you would no longer believe in your religion, God, Christ and bible then you risk your unproven god"s eternal wrath, Evil, Vengeance, Rage, Fury, Anger, As this is what your god has freely admitted of himself in your christian bible. You also risk you not making into this mythical heaven of yours. Is this what you truly want?
No____?
So are you self centered enough to make the "no" decision, That you choose your faith above your very best friend"s face being splattered across the ceiling, And you would be willing to let your best friend die right in front of you, And if the answer is "no" that you would not renounce your faith, Then BANG! Your very best friend dies and his/ her head gets blown off right in front of your eyes with absolutely no questions asked.

If you do not think that this is a valid scenario, Think again. As examples: Hitler did it. Hong Xiuquan did it. Pol Pot Did it. Jim Jones did it. So does your god and christ both in which you cannot prove has ever existed in which, Sorry, According to YOUR printed bible"s are the worst serial killers of all time, That is if and only if you follow their every inch of a decree. Thankfully sane people don't. AND both your unproven god and christ, They threaten you with death if you do not obey their crybaby whims.
Here"s some of the verses. . .

* Deuteronomy 13: 9-10 " But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, And afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, That he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, Which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, From the house of bondage.
* Deuteronomy 17: 2-5 "If there be found among you, Within any of thy gates which the Lord thy God giveth thee, Man or woman, That hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the Lord thy God, In transgressing his covenant, 3 And hath gone and served other gods, And worshipped them, Either the sun, Or moon, Or any of the host of heaven, Which I have not commanded; 4 And it be told thee, And thou hast heard of it, And enquired diligently, And, Behold, It be true, And the thing certain, That such abomination is wrought in Israel: 5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, Which have committed that wicked thing, Unto thy gates, Even that man or that woman, And shalt stone them with stones, Till they die.
* Leviticus 24:16 "And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, He shall surely be put to death, And all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, As he that is born in the land, When he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, Shall be put to death. "
* Exodus 31:14 "Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, That soul shall be cut off from among his people.
* Numbers 15: 32-36 " And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, They found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day. 33 And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, And unto all the congregation. 34 And they put him in ward, Because it was not declared what should be done to him. 35 And the Lord said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp. 36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, And stoned him with stones, And he died; as the Lord commanded Moses. "
* Exodus 21:17 "And he that curseth his father, Or his mother, Shall surely be put to death
* Leviticus 20:9 "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. "
* Leviticus 20:10 "And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, Even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, The adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. "
* Leviticus 20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, As he lieth with a woman, Both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. "
* 2 Chronicles 15: 12-13 "And they entered into a covenant to seek the LORD God of their fathers with all their heart and with all their soul; 13 That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, Whether small or great, Whether man or woman. "
* Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. "
* Mark 7:10 "For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, Let him die the death:
* Matthew 15:4 "For God commanded, Saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, Let him die the death. "
* John 3:18 "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, Because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. "
* John 3:36 "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. "

So much goes for christianity in ---any--- possible way being moral.

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StevenCrowder

Pro

I would grab the gun off him and shoot YOU with it.
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Posted by Knight_Dragon 2 years ago
Knight_Dragon
"Oh I get it, So if you as a christian were to see a gay person kissing another man and then see someone raping a 6 year old child, You'd call the police on the gay couple. "
Poor understanding, Much?
Posted by Club 3 years ago
Club
@StevenCrowder
Lol
Posted by StevenCrowder 3 years ago
StevenCrowder
I think you don't understand what Christianity is. You don't have to follow everything that God says. That's why praying exists.
Posted by backwardseden 3 years ago
backwardseden
@StevenCornCrowderToxicNoodleBrain
Since your answer is "yes" to all of the 6 questions, This means that you are as immoral your unproven god.
Oh and btw, WRONG. None of your top 5 indiscernible points that would be gutted and guttered to the trash by any jury sensible jury is not protected by the first amendment. Not even close teeny bopper. Let's give you a hypothetical situation. . . Suppose you were to murder someone because they were to blaspheme about your god. Do you really think, Teeny bopper, That you"d be protected by any conflict of interest as far as the first amendment is concerned? Or would your a$$eth holiness be sent up the river and you"d be rightly executed, Or that door to your cell would be forever locked with no possible way of you escaping until your rightful death? Well gee snookums, I just cannot possibly imagine where your headstone would rest on your brain. Nor would I care.

Here's you also. . . Oh I get it, So if you as a christian were to see a gay person kissing another man and then see someone raping a 6 year old child, You'd call the police on the gay couple. Good job in proving just how badly we need christians in this country because it is only christians that oppose being gay at such high levels here on this soil. However, Thankfully christianity is fading and failing fast and rightly so. Don't you christians have better things to do with your time like helping others like the 6 year olds being raped? Isn"t that what YOUR religion is supposed to teach you? But then again it doesn"t teach you that at all now does it? It in fact it teaches you to hate. That"s because god is based entirely on hate which is so ridiculously easy to prove as god hates children. The hate has gotta stop people. Christians need to become responsible and own up to their stupid mind numbing that don"t--make--any--sense--stances. Christianity has lost 5. 1% of its following since 2007 and atheism has doubled. 5. 1% is a huge number. Rightly. Justly.
Posted by StevenCrowder 3 years ago
StevenCrowder
Everything you have said can be repented by prayers and hope, So shut up and stop making Christianity an issue.
Posted by StevenCrowder 3 years ago
StevenCrowder
#1 killing someone for cursing about their mother is protected by the first amendment.
#2 killing someone for blaspheme is protected by the first amendment.
#3 killing someone for committing adultery is protected by the first amendment.
#4 killing someone for having sex with another man is protected by the first amendment.
#5 killing someone for following a different religion is protected by the first amendment.

All these points are debunked as we pray for every single one of these people to do as they wish. If we didn't, Gay people wouldn't have rights. Christians are helping gay people come out by praying that God will forgive them, And that they are not doing anything wrong. We are sinning, And repenting. That means I don't have to believe in everything God says, And no-one else does.
Posted by backwardseden 3 years ago
backwardseden
You lost me at sentence 1. I don't believe in the murder of babies, Children and pregnant mothers (abortions). You do.
Posted by StevenCrowder 3 years ago
StevenCrowder
All I am saying is, You can be an atheist. It's technically allowed as it is a repentable sin. You are a malicious, Blasphemic, Sinner who tries to offend a) God himself b) Jesus Christ and c) all people following Christianity. Now keep in mind, You can blaspheme supporters of Christianity, That's fine by the bible. You are even allowed to blaspheme Jesus Christ. But blaspheming God is an eternal sin that deserves to be punishable. Not believing in God is fine. Offending God by saying "God is a killer, " "God is the most evil person in fiction" etc. Is an unforgivable sin. Bending the text in the bible is very different to actually following it. While it is a sin to be gay, God forgives them completely. He never wanted people to kill them. He never wants people to kill anyone. Hitler did exactly what God didn't want, Which is Hitler killing people because they weren't Christian. God has never ordered the deaths of people, As they aren't blasphemic. Blasphemy is completely different to following a different religion. Not believing in Christianity's God is not the "eternal sin. " Calling Christianity's God a "killer, " "murderer, " and "villain" is an eternal sin. Most atheists are not doing this, Just you and your silly friend. This is also a reason why I don't support the death penalty. God doesn't want humans killing each-other, Period. Hitler bended the rules of the bible so as to suit his own blasphemic agenda towards Judaism.
Posted by backwardseden 3 years ago
backwardseden
Let's give you a morality test and see where you stand. If you say "yes" to any of the questions, You are as bankrupt and as immoral as your god. If you say "no to all questions, As you rightly should, Then you completely disobey your god. Oh and btw, The NT is far far far worse than the OT. So trying to bypass these and pretend that "the law" crap exists, When it doesn't, Won't work as 4 of these questions are based on your 10 commandments. Ready whippersnapper?
Do you think you should be put to death just because you blaspheme? Y____? N____? Your god thinks so. Leviticus 24:16, Do you think you should die if you work on the sabbath? Y____? N____? Your god thinks so. Exodus 31:14, And Numbers 15: 32-36, Do you think you should die for merely cursing at your parents? Y____? N____? Your god thinks so. Exodus 21:17, Leviticus 20:9, Mark 7:10, Matthew 15:4, Do you think you should die if you commit adultery? Y____? N____? Your god thinks so. Leviticus 20:10, Here"s some other wonderful kissy kissy poo poo things that YOUR god thinks you should die for Do you think you should die if you are a homosexual? Y___? N____? Your god thinks so. Leviticus 20:13, Do you think you should die if you worship other gods? Y____? N____? Your god thinks so. Deuteronomy 13: 9-10 and Deuteronomy 17: 2-5.
So you REALLY think I should follow YOUR god? Especially when all he is surrounded by is genocide and death?
Posted by StevenCrowder 3 years ago
StevenCrowder
Again, Why risk it? Do you hate yourself? If God does exist, You will most certainly be treated very badly.
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