The Instigator
savagepotatofat
Pro (for)
The Contender
Trent0405
Con (against)

Abortion is murder

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Started: 1/3/2020 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Debating Period
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savagepotatofat

Pro

Abortion is murder. Tell me I'm wrong. Convince me. I triple-dog dare you!
Trent0405

Con

"the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought"

That is the definition of murder, An abortion isn't murder because it is not unlawful, Abortion is indeed legal in all 50 U. S. States. You also aren't killing a person because a fetus isn't legally a person.

So, Does my opponent agree that. . .

My definition of murder is correct.

Abortion is legal.

And that a fetus legally isn't a person.

Murder definition-https://www. Merriam-webster. Com/dictionary/murder
Abortion is legal in all 50 states-https://en. Wikipedia. Org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States_by_state
Fetus isn't legally a person-https://evolutionnews. Org/2017/05/a-new-argument-for-abortion/
Debate Round No. 1
savagepotatofat

Pro

Hey there. Here is what I think of your three points.

1# Murder does not have to occur with malice forethought. It can simply be the killing of another human being with premeditation. It doesn't have to include malice.

https://www. Dictionary. Com/browse/murder#

2# Yes. Sadly, Abortion is legal. That does not make it right. That does not make it not murder. That doesn't mean it's okay. It's legal because we live in a cruel, Sinful world where people think only of themselves. Just because abortion is legal doesn't mean we should do it. If you're over the age of 21, Drinking is legal. Does that mean you should have 6 Buds a day and 6 Buds a night just because it's legal? Smoking is legal. Does that mean you should do it? Does that mean you should inhale the toxic smoke that can hurt and even kill you? Just because something is legal doesn't mean you should do it.

3# Yes. Again you are correct. A fetus is not legally a person. But again, That doesn't change the facts. A fetus IS a person. From the moment of conception, The concieved is a person. If you do away with that, You are taking a person's life. A fetus is a person. A fetus is alive. It is growing, And given that its parents are humans, A fetus is a person. Think of it in another way. It has all the characteristics of a human.

"My body, My choice. " This is a very common statement/protest that lots of women, Especially feminists, Use today, Mainly concerning the subject of abortion. Yes, Sure, It's my body, My choice! If I want to go get tattoos, I should go get tattoos! If I want to get plastic surgery, I should go get plastic surgery! But the baby? That is NOT a part of mine or anyone else's body. It is it's own body. Sure, It relies on it's mother's body to live, But that does not make it a part of the woman's body. It is only attached to her body, Only living in her body. It isn't part of it.

So I stand by my former argument: abortion is murder. It is the premeditated, Purposeful, Knowledgably putting a child's life to an end. Killing them. Taking away a whole life they could have ahead of them just because of the bad situation that a woman is in. Just because she wants what's best for her.

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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by savagepotatofat 2 years ago
savagepotatofat
Thanks to everyone who's supporting me in this. And @Trent0405, I get it, But whether you like it or not, Abortion is murder. Also to whoever tf said yeet that fetus, I both want to slap you in the face and meet with you for coffee, If you understand XD
Posted by John_C_1812_II 2 years ago
John_C_1812_II
Pregnancy abortion is the admission to a murder as a united state with all woman. A person is telling or instructing all woman to say they are to knowingly plan then kill a baby. A fetus is not a legal citizen of a notion and the malpractice law or medicine will not ever legally excuse of understanding around citizen ship that a fetus shares as a united state.
Female specific amputation is not the self-incrimination all woman are told must be made once they learn they are in fact pregnant with or without complication.
World issues such as Chernobyl and starvation by overpopulation play a significant roll in how we shape our own limitations as people. Globally the ideal response to a debate over reproduction is to create all woman as equal in a united state. It is the goal to work towards with reason and farness towards all woman as a single group.
Posted by Trent0405 2 years ago
Trent0405
Just to clarify, I'm anti abortion, But I hate when people say abortion is murder, It's just an appeal to emotion, And not true.
Posted by 1000lifetimes 2 years ago
1000lifetimes
Wouldn't the world be so much simpler if we just made the rule "You can't die before you're born! ".

Do aborted fetuses have birth certificates? Death certificates? What do they put on the form where it says "Date of Birth"?

Humanity isn't smart enough to start making laws that presume life before birth.
Posted by NathanH12 2 years ago
NathanH12
"Abortion is legal. "

"And that a fetus legally isn't a person. "

"Fetus isn't legally a person"

Slavery was legal. Your going to have to prove the fetus us not a life with facts and evidence, Not just saying it is legal.
Posted by Yoshikage69Kira 2 years ago
Yoshikage69Kira
yeet that fetus
Posted by John_C_1812_II 2 years ago
John_C_1812_II
Pregnancy Abortion describes the murder that can take place and female specific amputation is not a pregnancy abortion. Woman are to be created equal by use of law. This is not taking place with the use of self-incrimination set by the wording of abortion.

Woman have a United State Constitutional right to female specific amputation. This right does not exist with pregnancy abortion.
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