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backwardseden
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Oxior
Con (against)

Atheism is -ALWAYS- better than christianity. No exceptions. None

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/22/2020 Category: Education
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Debating Period
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backwardseden

Pro

It is much better to be an atheist than it is to be a simple toothed supposed popcorn neanderthal christ christian. Why? There are so many reasons. But let's start out with three of the most basic of basics.

1. Nobody in the history of the entire human race has ever proven ---any--- god from ---any--- religion to have ever existed. So why not believe in yourself first? Put yourself first and foremost ahead of something you can't prove even exists. Why not get evidence first and then believe rather than believing without evidence?

2. Do you believe that its perfectly OK for your unproven character storybook god of print only to hate on children and babies for no reason at all and in some cases murder them? Y____? N____? Why? Why not?
https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=2zYG_fJLjBg - god hates children
https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=5kQTIX7NRE4 - Atheist debates get em while they"re young
LM4: 9-11, MT 10:37, MT 2:16, JG 21:10, DT 2:34, NU 31: 17-18, LV 26: 21-22, HS 13:16, EZ 9: 5-7, HS 9: 11-16, EX 12: 29-30, IS 13: 15-18, MT 2:16, EX 21:17, LV 20:9, MK 7:10, MT 15:4, MT 10:21, JG 11: 30-33, PS 137: 8-9, DT 21: 18-21, DT 32:25, DT 2: 32-34, DT 3: 3-6, JG 19: 24-29, EX 12:29, LV 26:29, JM 11: 22-23, JM 19: 7-9, JM 51: 22-26, LM 2: 20-22, RV 2: 18-23 (btw with this exercise some of the verses are from your lovely NT so you have no excuses)
There is no justifiable reason that ---anyone--- can think of to murder any child or baby. Yet somehow supposed christians are AGAINST ABORTIONS? ! ? ! ? ! WHAT? ! ? ! And their god MURDERS babies and children? ! ? ! ? ! Yeah, That"s not only contradictory and hypocritical from their s--t of a god"s point of view, But their god also gave one of the 10 commandments of "thou shalt not kill". But wait gosh golly gee gosh darned it all, Their god kills, Well actually murders. Damn right there are BILLIONS of atheists on this planet (those who do not believe in a god or gods) who are not going to MURDER because a jacked up high on mighty uterus explosions wants to get his tickles at a gucci party unproven character storybook god of print only says so.

A child, Age 6 for example who has stage 4 cancer, Does not know what is happening to him/ her. Their cries are not heard, That they are in constant pain unless they are given sedatives/ pain killers, That they are terrified, That they are in an unfamiliar place (a hospital of some kind as an example), And are not home unless it is special circumstance, That they really do not understand what suffering is, But those around them probably do, Etc etc etc.
Oh and btw, YOUR god put children in that position of suffering to begin with which is 100% pure evil and hate. YOUR god absolutely loves to knowingly suffer, Otherwise he would not create their situations for them to suffer.
And btw, I know that you know that you cannot contemplate suffering at all. Your precious jesus went through 12 hours, Tops, Of suffering. Some children go through decades of suffering. Your precious jesus had it easy. Now please do tell me what a child can possibly learn from suffering? Much less an adult? If you"ve answered "nothing", You"ve answered correctly.
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god knowingly creates children to be raped, Beaten and tortured at the hands of their abusers. . . Sometimes for decades. An example is daddy is sticking in his you know what inside of his daughter age 5 while punching her in the face twice per week for 15 years. To knowingly create children to suffer is 100% pure evil and hate at its finest. You can not get more evil than that with all the hate if you wanted to. Please DO NOT bring in the "Free Will" argument either because children DO NOT have the Free Will to escape from these monsters who commit these horrific acts. And god creates these children to suffer as well as these monsters to commit their unspeakable crimes to begin with. God must also love it, Otherwise he would create these horrific events. Please DO NOT invent the excuse that "its not god's fault". Well yeah it is. Otherwise, God is NOT in control of everything, Nor is he all knowing nor is he all powerful. Nor is god omnipotent. Nor does god care enough to not create these horrific acts. And the worst of the absolute worst is god is giving a greater value, A greater meaning to these monsters to commit these horrific acts while these children suffer at the hands of these savages who have no free will to SCREAM. God IS hate and evil. Pure and simple. So invent better excuses please. Sure, Call me that I "hate" when it was just proven that YOUR god hates and nothing but. AND GOD MUST HAVE GIVEN THAT HATE TO ME AND ALL OF MANKIND. And yes, Absolutely 100% that includes YOU by gum! Wow. What a loving god huh? Pathetic, But typical smug christian ideal that doesn't work - ever - excuse on your part.
In other words, God truly hates children which is a truly "duh "situation. The bible proves this time and time again. Also notice how children do not get to say a single sentence in the bible? Not one. Its like having your mouth glued shut for your entire childhood. That's the worst form of child abuse there is - to be neglected and ignored. And the bible does it so well. Sure god and jesus have stated that they love children or whatever, But that's not the same thing. Not by a longshot. How would you like it if someone spoke for you for your entire childhood and you could not say a single word on your behalf? Well, You'd naturally hate it. Also the bible is surely incomplete because there are no voices of children, There are no children talking or singing, Or voices of them playing, When it is most assuredly required. How would you like it if you as an adult, Who worked so hard for your children, As well you should, And they should always be the center of your life, Were to find out that they were left out of your life? Well, Once again you'd naturally hate it. And that's exactly what the bible and god has done in leaving children completely out of "their" most supposed sacred book of history that is supposed to engulf everything that was known within their supposed surroundings up until that special moment in time, And yet it completely ignores and neglects children. Well good job for the men who wrote the bible. Not---toooo---bright.

3. Oh absolutely, The bible is phenomenally inconsistent. Its all over the map. Especially with who did what to whom, Where when and there"s of course no why from its god, There is only just because of its jealousy. But the NT is even more immoral than the OT BY FAR. 1. In order to make it to this mythical heaven, The only way to do this is through the belief in the unproven jesus christ. Everybody else is doomed to be committed to the mythical hell to be tortured and burned forever and ever in eternal flames of fire. It gets worse. . . So Hitler who was a devout christian, And Hong Xiuquan who knew of himself to be the younger brother of christ, They both with their belief in christ will have made it to this mythical heaven. This is also true for all serial killers, Torturers, Rapists, Sodomizers, Pedophiles, Etc etc etc. If they find this mythical christ, They are guaranteed a spot in this mythical heaven. This is a completely immoral bankrupt corrupt law when they, If anybody. Should burn in hell and be tortured to burn eternally forever and ever. But then again, Why should this crapola happen to anybody? If this supposed unproven character storybook god of print only truly exists, It would know ---EXACTLY--- what its dogmeat playthings are going to be doing every single day of every single second throughout time and would thus present peace, Kindness, Care, Love, Harmony etc etc etc. Throughout all of eternity. Nah. That's far too much to ask as this thing as it has never happened for 60 years, Just 50 stinking years since its inception. Not anywhere, Not at any time, And not with any culture. This shows that this supposed god has no power except for the obvious power of its main preference to hate, And have Anger, Wrath, Evil, Vengeance, Rage, Fury, Jealousy etc etc etc and wallows in it as this unproven character storybook god or print only in its bible has freely admitted to all of them. So on the opposite end of the loop, There's the atheist who does not believe in god or christ. Wow. 2. Then we who number in the billions are doomed to go to this mythical hell to forever burn eternally simply for not believing in this mythical christ. If that is not the most immoral thing from ---any--- religion, What is? So this is true love huh? Nope.

All 3 of those reasons are very thankful reasons out of thousands of reasons to be an atheist any day of the year. This isn't hard to figure out. Pour some salt on those dimples. Smile! Have fun. You deserve it.

Next time, If there is a next time, We'll get into A LOT MORE!

dsjpk5 (aka flappy) is disqualified from the voting procedures as he tries to pretend he's god and thus change the voting structure of who wins and loses here on DDO.
Oxior

Con

Umm is a fellow atheist okay to debate against a fellow atheist? I don't know. I'm doing this for fun, Anyway the thing is. . Is that no belief is better, It is clearly subjective on what the person believes in. I grew up in a catholic environment, And the reason why i turned to atheism is that religion doesn't make sense. I have nothing against my former religion because every religion has its flaws but saying that atheism is "better" is like saying that being vegan is better.

We live in the real world not the ideal world where atheism is superior to christianity or any kind of religion. Remember your beliefs are subjective not objective. I feel that you have a kind of hatred against religion in which i understand, Its confusing to be honest. Like if god is good then why does x and y happen. Religion is just a coping mechanism for the harsh and confusing realities of life. A sort of guide towards life, Now i am aware of the atrocities each religion committed but you should blame the man behind the gun.

Maybe your wondering "If religion guides us towards life. Then why does ISIS justify their violent actions to the Quran? " again, You should blame the man behind the gun. Those are just sum of its parts, Or simply they are not true followers that do good things. Https://en. Wikipedia. Org/wiki/Violence_in_the_Quran

Overall no belief is better and bad things happen to good people. Seems unfair right?
Oh and here's a link that is similar to one your statements: https://www. Quora. Com/Was-Dostoevsky-correct-when-he-wrote-If-God-does-not-exist-everything-is-permissible
And a question to end my argument judging by the tone of your statements:
Why do you hate god if he does not exist?
Debate Round No. 1
backwardseden

Pro

Nevermind. You didn't even bother reading, Analyzing and comprehending RD1. All you did was put your bullets up. Do you know ---anything--- at all about christianity? Obviously not. Don't even bother responding. Bye.
Oxior

Con

Lol i did your read your statements. Basically all your saying is how inconsistent the bible is and how god creates children to be raped and etc. . I mean like seriously? Bad things happen to good people that's just how life works. I just basically summed up your whole argument with "comprehension" and you didn't even bother to argue with my previous statement? Wow.

If i had your complex knowledge of christianity i would have definitely ended this by now. Maybe atheist aren't allowed to argue with your statement and only christians? Wew.
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