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Atheists generally know religion better than those who are religious according to Pew Research

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Started: 2/13/2020 Category: Education
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backwardseden

Pro

It is asked by Pew Research Center "Test your religious knowledge by taking an interactive quiz. The short quiz includes some questions recently asked in the nationally representative survey that forms the basis of this report. After completing the quiz, You can see how you did in comparison with the general public and with people like yourself. "

No cheating. Be honest.
If you say that you got every question correct after you've answered all of them, You'd be flat out lying. So don't.

Bible
* Which Bible figure is most closely associated with leading the Exodus from Egypt? Moses, Daniel, Elijah, Joseph
* Which figure is most closely associated with killing an enemy with a stone? David, Isaiah, Joshua, Solomon
* Who is most closely associated with willingness to sacrifice his son to obey God? Abraham, Jacob, Cain, Levi
* Who is most closely associated with saving Jews from murder by appealing to king? Esther, Ruth, Sarah, Rebecca
* Which of these is NOT in the Ten Commandments? Golden rule, No adultery, No stealing, Keep Sabbath holy
* Who delivered the Sermon on the Mount? Jesus, Peter, Paul, John
* Where did Jesus live during his childhood and young adulthood? Nazareth, Bethlehem, Jerusalem, Jericho

Elements of Christianity
* Easter Sunday commemorates what? Resurrection, Ascension, Crucifixion, Last Supper
* Which best describes the Trinity? One God in three persons (Father, Son, Holy Spirit), There are three patriarchs (Abraham, Isaac, Jacob), Coming of Christ foretold by three prophets (Elijah, Ezekiel, Zechariah), There are three Gods (Father, Mother, Son)
* Which is the Catholic teaching about bread and wine in Communion? They become actual body and blood of Christ, They are symbols of the body and blood of Christ
* In Catholicism, Purgatory is " where souls are purified before entering heaven, An offering made during confession, Purification process made during self-reflection, Where souls go for eternal punishment
* Which group traditionally teaches that salvation comes through faith alone? Protestantism, Catholicism, Both, Neither
* Prosperity gospel teaches " strong faith leads to financial success and good health, Easier for camel to go through eye of needle than for rich person to enter the kingdom of God, To whom much is given much is expected, God"s blessing is given to the poor who store up treasures in heaven
* What was the religion of Joseph Smith? Mormon, Catholic, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu

Elements of Judaism
* What best describes Rosh Hashana? New Year, Day of Atonement, Candles lit for eight nights, End of Torah reading
* Which religious tradition is Kabbalah most closely associated with? Judaism, Hinduism, Islam, Zoroastrianism
* What was the religion of Maimonides? Jewish, Mormon, Catholic, Buddhist, Hindu
* When does the Jewish Sabbath begin? Friday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday

Elements of world religions
* What is the holiest city in Islam, To which Muslims are expected to make a pilgrimage? Mecca, Jerusalem, Medina, Cairo
* Ramadan is " an Islamic holy month, Hindu festival of lights, Jewish prayer for the dead, Festival for Buddha"s birth
* What is the religion of most people in Indonesia? Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, Sikhism
* Which religious tradition is yoga most closely associated with? Hinduism, Judaism, Islam, Zoroastrianism
* Which text is most closely associated with Hindu tradition? Vedas, Tao Te Ching, Quran, Mahayana sutras
* Which is one of Buddhism"s four "noble truths"? The truth of suffering, Every being has immortal soul, Buddha was perfect, Monotheism
* What is the religion of most people in Thailand? Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Christianity, Sikhism
* What is the religion of most people in Ethiopia? Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Sikhism
* Which religion requires men to wear a turban and carry a ceremonial sword? Sikhism, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism

Atheism and agnosticism
* An atheist " does NOT believe in God, Believes in God, Is unsure whether God exists, Believes in multiple gods
* An agnostic " is unsure whether God exists, Believes in God, Does NOT believe in God, Believes in multiple gods

Religion and public life
* What does the U. S. Constitution say about religion as it relates to federal officeholders? No religious test necessary for holding office, Sworn in using Bible, Must affirm that all men are endowed by Creator with unalienable rights, Does not say anything
* How many adults in the U. S. Are Jewish? Less than 5%, One-in-ten, One-in-four, Half or more
* How many adults in the U. S. Are Muslim? Less than 5%, One-in-ten, One-in-four, Half or more

I got two wrong. Let's see how many you get right?

dsjpk5 is disqualified from the voting procedures as he tries to pretend he's god and thus change the voting structure of who wins and loses here on DDO.
c3532106

Con

Atheists don't know religion better than those who are religious. This is absurd.

Firstly, Measuring atheism is complicated. Some people who describe themselves as atheists also say they believe in some kind of higher power or spiritual force. Therefore, These people that you are suggesting know religion better than religious people is actually because they are religious themselves too! At the same time, Some of those who identify with a religion (for example, Say they are Catholic or Jewish) say they do not believe in God, So this must make up the people that don't know much about religion that claim to be religious.

Furthermore, The definition of "atheist" is "a person who does not believe in the existence of a god or any gods, " according to Merriam-Webster. And the vast majority of U. S. Atheists fit this description: 81% say they do not believe in God or a higher power or in a spiritual force of any kind. Therefore, How can they know more about religion than religious people when they don't believe in it and therefore have no interest in the subject whatsoever.

Moreover, There are more atheists than religious minds in European countries where the research was conducted. Therefore, You could argue that the sample size could be questioned. This is because there would be theoretically a more atheist population partaking in the survey than a religious population so would therefore not be representative of the general population.
Debate Round No. 1
backwardseden

Pro

You are as bright as the smog in downtown Shanghai and or Los Angelos. "Atheists don't know religion better than those who are religious. This is absurd. " Really teeny bopper? Really? Well you know what? Take one lucky guess from the scrotum soda pop that you call a thunder p**sy that has caught the clap because you are a forever virgin that only knows how to meow at the moon with his pet rubber ducky he calls a brain, Pew Research Center, The best poll company in the world, By far, They happen to know one helluva lot better than you who pretends to know something about nothing. AND because you know nothing go right ahead and take the quiz you pathetic and then we can all see how miserable your cabbage batbrain will fair. Nope. That's too much for your battery powered easy bake portable oven to regress. I only got 2 wrong.

"Firstly, Measuring atheism is complicated. "
Um no dildo breath, It's not.
* "The only way you can be a bad atheist is to believe in god. " Matt Dillahunty
* "You don't get to put your unreason upon the same shelf with my reason. " Bill Maher
* "Atheism is a response to a single claim, That some god exists. We don"t believe that"s true so we"re atheists. And that"s all it means. " Jen peeples

Atheism: 1. The doctrine or belief that there is no God. 2. Disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.

Here"s some videos to help you out since you think you know everything but in reality your mind is clogged like a sewer gutterball sandwich.
* https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=7o5h0DdcyTA&t=264s - Reasons for accepting atheism B. O. P.
"Religious claims fail to meet their B. O. P. " Matt Dillahunty
"Its not that we accept atheism because you"re accepting a non belief. Or let me rephrase it. It the rejection of a belief. It means the same thing I suppose. You"re suggesting that we believe in something never indicated until indicated I can"t believe it. I mean you can make up any number of things that can come to your imagination, But when you posit them as true it is incumbent upon you to come up with a reason why we should believe that it is true. " Aron Ra
* https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=WbxqvugoJuw - Proof that atheism is accurate and correct
Atheism doesn"t have the B. O. P. It is the rejection of claims that have not met their B. O. P.
Atheism is the lack of belief in something.
* https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=E3rGev6OZ3w&t=130s - Penn Jillette: Reading the Bible (Or the Koran, Or the Torah) Will Make You an Atheist
* https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=lMLzThidlZM The Burden of Proof is on Christians or Atheist? ! - The Atheist Experience #776
* https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=_25w9CE73ak - Bill Maher - Atheism IS NOT a Religion
* https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=qHsFA7cp7M0&t=178s - Atheism a religion?
* https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=cUh91EP8ClE - The case for Atheism (Richard Carrier)
* https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=lDpEeHD54Mo&t=1397s - The Gospel According to Carrier
* https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=mLdjoEWOnec - A believers guide to Atheism in 9 minutes
* https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=wtO1e9breLs - Is Atheism a Dogmatic Religion?
* https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=TqhRlpjp4Dw - Atheist VS christian Jaclyn Glenn

So since you obviously and point blank have no clue and or idea what an atheist is, And had to invent excuses to save your miserable reareth endeth from being butt plugged with a can of sardines, We're going to completely ignore your next paragraph since it is entirely made up B. S. And is a true nonsensical mishmash of granny rabid rabbi rats in a maze first one to the poison gets his testicles removed and that would be you, You know it. Yeah, Can yah tell I truly HATE those that invent excuses and or flat out lie especially for something in which they clearly know absolutely nothing about, And because they don't they have to pretend that they do by inventing excuses and or flatly lying in order to gain attention? Too bad yah ran into someone that DOES know better.

"Some people who describe themselves as atheists also say they believe in some kind of higher power or spiritual force. " Not the same thing, Not by a long shot as a "god". Toodles for this paragraph.

Your bridesmaid next paragraph tries to drive home that same ridiculous thing. So bang bang POOF GONE. Hasta la bye bye.

"Moreover, There are more atheists than religious minds in European countries where the research was conducted. " Oh really? The research was done in European countries? OK we're done teeny bopper. Your next stupid little neanderthal christ storybook character unproven god of print only fake and false god innuendo Mustang Ranch idiocies will 100% be ignored. See, I unlike you 100% knows what I am talking about and can back up what I say with something called ---evidence--- whereas you believe without evidence which is why your unproven god has never been proved by anyone in the history of the human race. You don't even have a glass of spoiled curdled faucet milk that you cuddle with right before you go to beddy-bye. Bye.
c3532106

Con

First of all I would like to remind you that you have posted on a debating website. A debate is described as "a formal discussion on a particular matter in a public meeting or legislative assembly, In which opposing arguments are put forward and which usually ends with a vote". This argument you have conjured up consists of name calling, Poor grammar and most of all unprofessional-ism and is therefore not valid. If you have to result to such abuse for every time someone has an opinion then I believe this isn't the website for you. I was looking forward to your response considering I thought it would be made up of brilliant ideas to back your argument but sadly this wasn't the case.
Debate Round No. 2
backwardseden

Pro

As stated teeny bopper especially with your complete and total f--kups of the first RD "Moreover, There are more atheists than religious minds in European countries where the research was conducted. " and then some "will 100% be ignored. " You have more than proved you have nothing of value to say.
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Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by Keplor 2 years ago
Keplor
This is more of a fact than a debate
Posted by anc2006 2 years ago
anc2006
Well because Christians are not supposed to know a lot about Islam.
Posted by backwardseden 2 years ago
backwardseden
And they thumb their rightful brown nose at you. You are so full of s--t that it's not even funny, You know it, And people simply want to have NOTHING to do with you when you invent excuses and flat out lie.

See, I unlike you, I have genuine friends, 5 of them, Lifelong ones as the matter of fact. 3 of them for 45+ years and1 for 18+ years and one for 21+ years. Why? Because we DO NOT B. S. Each other and we are honest with each other. In fact one is a hardcore believer and yep, We have our spats. You do that, You will have genuine friends and loved ones for life. You don't as you insist on doing what you are doing right now and you cannot back up anything with evidence, And you thus enter arguments and or conversations in which you clearly know nothing about and yet you pretend that you do and since you don't, As clearly as you do here and because you don't you make up excuses for it and or flat out lie = forget it.

Sin, Really? Um nope. I don't. Neither does ---anyone--- else on this planet. Not ever. First in order for ---anyone--- to sin, There MUST be a god in which case you nor anyone can prove even exists. I'm also not going to carry that unnecessary silly little baggage on my chest everywhere I go, Wondering if I did this or that wrong. Neither is any other atheist, In which they are all correct on this issue until a god is proven. And even if it is proven, No true god would issue the burden of sin on anyone.
https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=1UtgI3qvwz0&t=2929s - Sin - The call starts at 44:30, The good stuff 48:30. Oh, There's A LOT MORE ON sin. But be blind, Deaf, And dumb, Don't examine anything as far as I'm concerned. See, Unlike you, I CAN backup ---everything--- I state with "evidence" and will continue to do so. But unless you care to examine the evidence, Then I don't care to talk to you because you most certainly have no truthful evidence.
That's the entire f--king point. Got it boy?

So take the Quiz. Be honest in how many you get wrong.
Posted by backwardseden 2 years ago
backwardseden
Here"s a few examples"
* In the Bishop"s bible, The one before the KJV, The word "Tyrant" was used I don"t know how many times (its at least 400 from what completed records show) and then in the KJV that was replaced by "King". WHAT? Tyrant and King are two different and totally apples and oranges with each having totally different meanings.
* In Isaiah 45:7 KJV "I form the light, And create darkness: I make peace, And create evil: I the Lord do all these things. " In the NIV version, Its "I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, The Lord, Do all these things. " In the NLT its "I create the light and make the darkness. I send good times and bad times. I, The Lord, Am the one who does these things. The words "evil" and "disaster" and "bad" are 3 completely different words that have 0% of nothing to do with each other and completely change the meaning of the verses. With each different verse, The messages are completely different. The synonyms of each word don"t even match.
Now which version is correct if any that millions are reading? And doesn"t any thinking moron not know that no god would allow this kind of crap to not allow any kind of passing the grade and thus no true god, Not for any reason among many reasons, Would never even contemplate using text as a form of communication, Advertisement, Correspondence TO ANY GOD? So what's left? Faith? Do you ---really--- want to get into faith? Science doesn't work because no science was mentioned in the bible AT ALL of any kind to explain its god's existence.

"the reason no one looks at your links is that we don't need to so do debunk you idiotic statement. " Well see, I can back up what I state and say with something called "evidence". That's what the links are for. This is why you have no genuine friends or loved ones. None. Its because you cannot back up what you say with evidence. People scoff at you. They hold their breath and laugh at what you say.
Posted by backwardseden 2 years ago
backwardseden
@Atheistic_Whatever - Go ahead and take the Quiz, All of it and see just how well your cherry picker upper pecker pick puck what's up cup of throw up from Donald toilet dust Trump (easily the worst president of all time) tea cup does. Nah you are a true coward because you 100% know that you will fail.

"If you know so much about OUR religion, How can you deny it exists? " It's based on belief without evidence. Get some god damned evidence to support your beliefs and then your beliefs might actually be credible. "YOU ARE DEBATING CHRISTIANS! We can follow God's teachings as closely as humanly possible. " BULL F--KING S--T. You were 100% proven wrong on that last night when you flat out invented the excuse and complete flat out lie of "With Christ"s death all of the punishments from breaking the 10 commandments were removed. " You follow what you want, How you want, To what serves your purposes for your wants, Needs and desires, And you chuck the rest of the bible and you don't give a damn what it says and you f--king know it. This is one MAJOR reason why no idiot god would ---ever--- use text, Not for any reason, Not ever. There's no f--king consensus. If you were put into a room with someone else who had your exact same ideals, Had the exact same scripts, Got the same exact thing from your written texts (even though nobody does), Dreamed, Eat, Slept on the exact same tombstone, You would still, Somehow manage to find fault with that person. "We can follow God's teachings as closely as humanly possible. " If your god was a true god, And since it is so ridiculously egotistical as the 10 commandments 100% prove this as 4 of them are geared towards his s--t of an ego which proves this thing in no possible way is a true god, It would take human error out of the equation. So how do you follow this "We can follow God's teachings as closely as humanly possible. " If there are over 500 different English translations of your bible alone? Answer: You don't.
Posted by Atheistic_Christian 2 years ago
Atheistic_Christian
be punished if we learn about other religions. All of the denominations believe in the same basic principles and core beliefs. The difference is how we enforce and teach those beliefs. You are a total lost cause and this is why many choose to not debate you.
"You really don't think I don't know your pathetic religion/ Christianity, Well at least better than you? Oh please do try harder. A lot harder. AND invent better excuses please. " You have absolutely no idea about anything in the bible. You are so insane that you have created thousands of new, And stupid, Words to type at children on the internet. Get an actual job and do something useful with the rest of your short life.
Posted by Atheistic_Christian 2 years ago
Atheistic_Christian
@backwardseden "Well gosh golly gee gosh darned it all I do indeed know more about christianity than you ever will. I've read the bible from which YOUR saddened terrorist religion is ENTIRELY based on in which YOU and other so-called christians are 100% incapable of following. Gosh! This means that christianity does---not---exist. " If you know so much about OUR religion, How can you deny it exists? YOU ARE DEBATING CHRISTIANS! We can follow God's teachings as closely as humanly possible.
"Will your teeny tiny itty bitty brain filled with Shangri smog have a lookie at it? Nope. Why? Because YOU like you are 100% afraid of it as well as Delahunt and will not look and or listen to him, And you are totally afraid of being proven wrong. That's the typical "Christian" attitude. " the reason no one looks at your links is that we don't need to so do debunk you idiotic statement. Human"s sin. This is a fact of life. No one is as perfect as God so of course we fail, But we will still try.
"1. It's not "YOUR" religion. It's you unproven storybook character god of print only's religion in which case you cannot prove even exists. And until you do, You"ve got nothing, 0, Zip, Nada, No evidence, No proof, For anything. " You can"t prove evolution ether. Disprove God or prove evolution and then come back. So you also have nothing using this argument.
". Until you are able to divulge into other religions and understand them, In which case you are not because according to your idiot bible, It's death unto you which is beyond insane, There is no possible way, None, That you can know that the religion you believe in is correct, In which case it isn't as there's over 33, 480 denominations of Christianity alone. So you have no idea, None as to which denomination to believe in, And which one is correct. Neither does anyone else. In other words, The religion that you supposedly believe in, Is a lost cause. So are you. " we can look into other religions and still be Christian. We will not
Posted by backwardseden 2 years ago
backwardseden
See, That's two of the major problems. . .
1. It's not "YOUR" religion. It's you unproven storybook character god of print only's religion in which case you cannot prove even exists. And until you do, You've got nothing, 0, Zip, Nada, No evidence, No proof, For anything.
2. Until you are able to divulge into other religions and understand them, In which case you are not because according to your idiot bible, It's death unto you which is beyond insane, There is no possible way, None, That you can know that the religion you believe in is correct, In which case it isn't as there's over 33, 480 denominations of christianity alone. So you have no idea, None as to which denomination to believe in, And which one is correct. Neither does anyone else. In other words, The religion that you supposedly believe in, Is a lost cause. So are you.
You really don't think I don't know your pathetic religion/ christianity, Well at least better than you? Oh please do try harder. A lot harder. AND invent better excuses please.
Posted by backwardseden 2 years ago
backwardseden
Well gosh golly gee gosh darned it all I do indeed know more about christianity than you ever will. I've read the bible from which YOUR saddened terrorist religion is ENTIRELY based on in which YOU and other so-called christians are 100% incapable of following. Gosh! This means that christianity does---not---exist. Here's a video to help you.
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=x-slAgzJmdU - Why Does Every Intelligent christian disobey jesus? (Regardless, Don't you worry, In no possible way are you "intelligent". )
Will your teeny tiny itty bitty brain filled with Shangai smog have a lookie at it? Nope. Why? Because YOU like you are 100% afraid of it as well as Dillahunty and will not look and or listen to him, And you are totally afraid of being proven wrong. That's the typical "christian" attitude.
I'm so very glad I made your day better. Please do not post me back unless you have something intelligent to say.
Posted by Augom 2 years ago
Augom
I answered the ones regarding my religion.

* Moses
* David
* Abram
* Esther
* Golden rule
* Jesus
* Nazareth
*Resurrection
* One God three persons
* Actual Body
* Purification
* Protestantism teaches that works demonstrate that you have faith. So both, But moreso Protestantism
* Financial success
* mormon
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