Debate.org is closing and the website will be taken offline on May 30, 2022.
Members can download their content by using the Download Data button in My Account. For more information, please refer to our FAQs page.
The Instigator
kdudebate
Pro (for)
The Contender
EdgeDebate
Con (against)

Cristiano Ronaldo Is Better Than Lionel Messi

Do you like this debate?NoYes+0
Add this debate to Google Add this debate to Delicious Add this debate to FaceBook Add this debate to Digg  
Debate Round Forfeited
EdgeDebate has forfeited round #2.
Our system has not yet updated this debate. Please check back in a few minutes for more options.
Time Remaining
00days00hours00minutes00seconds
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/30/2019 Category: Sports
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Debating Period
Viewed: 385 times Debate No: 122023
Debate Rounds (4)
Comments (0)
Votes (0)

 

kdudebate

Pro

Cristiano Ronaldo is a Portuguese professional footballer who plays as a forward for Italian club Juventus and captains the Portugal national team.
Lionel Messi is an Argentine professional footballer who plays as a forward and captains both FC Barcelona and the Argentina national team.
They often considered the best player in the world and widely regarded as one of the greatest players of all time.

The only player to have been named both in the FIFA FIFPro World XI and UEFA Team Of the Year for ten consecutive years in a row, Cristiano Ronaldo. I personally believe he is the better player than Lionel Messi.

1) It is important that Cristiano Ronaldo has won silverware with Portugal, However even more impressive is the fact that the forward has always performed to his maximum capability while on international duty. In comparison, Messi has a great scoring record for Argentina, However, His performances have often failed to match the ones that he provides for Barcelona.

2)Ronaldo has played in three different leagues and has been successful in each of them. Messi has played for one team all his career, Many people doubt if he would have been equally successful in PL. While Ronaldo has won ballon d"or s playing for two different clubs.

3) Ronaldo has an unmatchable record in the Champions League, The biggest club level tournament. He holds the record for most goals, Most assists, Most hat-tricks, Most goals in the knockout stage, Most goals in a single season and most high goal scoring seasons. Messi's 108 goals have come in 132 appearances, At an average of 0. 81 goals per game. For Messi to catch Ronaldo, Presuming that Ronaldo did not score again and Messi continued to score at his average rate - Messi would need another 21 appearances in the competition.

Well as what Maradona said ' Portugal needs to build a statue for Ronaldo".
EdgeDebate

Con

Thank you for this debate for I have had arguments with friends over this topic and enjoy to debate who is better. I am not here to say Ronaldo is a bad player but is second best to Messi. This debate can get confusing and hard to debate since they both have different playing styles but we shall debate anyway.

Here is a link of Messi"s stats this season in the Spanish league (La Liga) this season compared to everyone else.
https://www. Google. Com/amp/s/www. Thesun. Co. Uk/sport/football/9113370/messi-stats-la-liga-take-ons-southampton/amp/
He clearly destroyed everyone in the league showing his dominance over everyone there.

My opponent said:
"It is important that Cristiano Ronaldo has won silverware with Portugal, However even more impressive is the fact that the forward has always performed to his maximum capability while on international duty. In comparison, Messi has a great scoring record for Argentina, However, His performances have often failed to match the ones that he provides for Barcelona. "

If I may say, In the World Cup Messi is the only player to have scored in the World Cup in his teens, 20s, And 30s. Messi has also got at least one assist in all of his World Cup tournaments he went to. Has Ronaldo done all this? Nope. Did Ronaldo make it to the WC final? Nope. Messi has made it to two finals in the Copa Am"rica competition. Yes, Ronaldo won the Euro, But guess what he got injured during the final and his team won without him proving that they could of done it without him. Which it"s hard to compare international tournaments because they compete in two different hemispheres.

My opponent said:
"Ronaldo has played in three different leagues and has been successful in each of them. Messi has played for one team all his career, Many people doubt if he would have been equally successful in PL. While Ronaldo has won balon d"or s playing for two different clubs. "

Yes, Ronaldo has had success in some of the best leagues in the world and Messi stays at Barca, But still Messi can play successfully in the Premier League. Here is his stats for every premier league team he has ever faced in the Champions League. He has only faced the top six clubs of the 2018-19 PL season and has done well.
https://www. Google. Com/amp/s/www. Express. Co. Uk/sport/football/1120949/Lionel-Messi-Barcelona-Liverpool-Champions-League-record-Premier-League-clubs/amp

My opponent said:
"Ronaldo has an unmatchable record in the Champions League, The biggest club level tournament. He holds the record for most goals, Most assists, Most hat-tricks, Most goals in the knockout stage, Most goals in a single season and most high goal scoring seasons. Messi's 108 goals have come in 132 appearances, At an average of 0. 81 goals per game. For Messi to catch Ronaldo, Presuming that Ronaldo did not score again and Messi continued to score at his average rate - Messi would need another 21 appearances in the competition. "

I would like to say that Ronaldo has a substantial amount of games played more than Messi. This gives Ronaldo a statistical advantage and makes it hard to argue about CL. Messi would have to play more games than Ronaldo which isn"t really possible to reach until Ronaldo retires. Messi would have to catch up for the record of most goals since he lacks appearances, But if Messi played as many games as Ronaldo has, I bet he would be there. For most hat tricks (3 goals in a game) Messi and Ronaldo are actually tied in the champions league stat, So that doesn"t mean Ronaldo is better and you kind of left out the fact that Messi is tied with him in your argument, Anyway please fact check when bringing up evidence. On to assist, Ronaldo has the most assist in the competition but Messi isn"t too far behind, And let me say once again Messi could easily be tied if he had played as many games as Ronaldo. Ronaldo, Most goals in a season, Guess what? Their group was the easiest in the tournament, And when you play easy teams it"s really easy to score, A lot. The only hard teams they faced were Bayern, Atl"tico Madrid. Ronaldo May have all these stats but if you look at it, You can"t count out Messi. In the CL, Lionel Messi has the most group stage goals, Most UEFA CL round of 16 goals, And a higher goal per game ratio than Ronaldo. He has won 4 CL titles (Ronaldo has won 5 but has played in more CL tournaments). Messi just won the CL golden boot and Europe golden boot and has won it 6 times (2 more than Ronaldo). Both have just as many Balon D"or awards. Messi has dominated Europe and will continue to.

Onto my own arguments and not answers:
1. Messi has conquered Spain, These are records Ronaldo didn"t get with Madrid.
A. He is the all time La Liga goal scorer.
B. He had the most goals in a season at 50 goals, Ronaldo was never able to score that much.
C. He holds the record for most LA Liga goals for a non-Spanish player with 8.
2. Other records and stats beside Spanish League.
A. Most goals in a season 73 (all competitions)
B. More goals in games of Messi"s team vs Ronaldo"s.
C. Most goals in a calendar year.
D. Better goal per game ratio.
E. Most CL group stage goals and most round of 16 goals.
I can give more but your probably tired of reading all this. I"m sorry for the long paragraphs.
Debate Round No. 1
kdudebate

Pro

If u can"t push ur club or country there, Then ur below average. Messi has failed at all times that his country n club needed him and Ronaldo has done it. Rinaldo is far better u can compare him with likes of Pele. Even with a good Argentine team messi fails but with a less better Portugal, U can see n witness wat Ronaldo did to Spain in the World cup. Messi has failed to take his country to similar glory in major tournaments. That said, Messi was part of the promising generation of Argentine youngsters coming through during the first part of the last decade, And has an Olympic gold medal (2008) and a FIFA U-20 Champions medal (2005) to show. Meanwhile, Ronaldo has finished once as runner-up (Euro 2004), Once in third position at Euro 2012 and most recently, Won Euro 2016 with Portugal.
How can you determine Messi stats in EPL? I totally agreed with what you said but Messi would still run riot in the EPL and the only thing that would hold him back is the lack of a good support cast or injuries because EPL being more physical would definitely take a toll on his body (the same would hold good of the support cast as well - Xavi and Iniesta would never be able to complete a season in the EPL injury-free. I feel apart from the physicality of the EPL the weather also plays a huge role. A common cliche would be the "facing Stoke on a cold winter evening" maxim. I think any world-class player would struggle in those conditions and Messi would surely be one of them. Bodies become more susceptible to injuries as well.

From the physique and ability,
Ronaldo has better physique and athletic ability. Messi and Ronaldo are amongst the most complete football players to ever play the game, But if you had to compare the skills between these two titans of the sport, Ronaldo manages to just edge Messi. Ronaldo is taller and more robustly built than Messi, And this physical difference accounts for their differing styles of play. Messi is shorter, More compact, And less powerful, Thus he relies on his incredible agility and ball control. In contrast, Ronaldo not only has incredible agility and ball control of his own, But he is able to rely on his strength and power against defenders should he need it. Ronaldo"s superior power and physique gives him a greater free-kicking and long-range kicking ability than Messi. Due to a height difference of six inches between the two, Ronaldo also possesses a world-class ability to jump, Something Messi just physically can"t match. Ronaldo is also more faster than Messi. Ronaldo is also a better penalty taker.

Maybe we need to compare few things that Ronaldo does better than Messi
"Ronaldo has netted 75 times for Portugal which is the 7th highest in International Career. He also has a International trophy (Euro Cup) in which he played a key role.
"Ronaldo has headed 100 goals while Messi has just 24 with his head. Its his heading capability and has completely edged Messi
"Ronaldo has 94 penalty goals while Messi has 70 penalty goals. Ronaldo has slightly edged Messi in this.
"Ronaldo has registered 106 goals with his left foot whereas Messi has managed 73. In need of a jack of all trades? CR7 is definitely your master.

Plus, He has become a key player for Real Madrid for its Champions League succes. He played a key role in Champions League by putting all his experience into it and helped RM win CL back to back. He also did while he was in Manchester United.
Such qualities are missing in Messi. Messi has lost 4 major finals, Of which 3 are the latest one including World Cup 2014 final loss to Germany.
So, Ronaldo is better than Messi in these aspects.
This round has not been posted yet.
Debate Round No. 2
This round has not been posted yet.
This round has not been posted yet.
Debate Round No. 3
This round has not been posted yet.
This round has not been posted yet.
Debate Round No. 4
No comments have been posted on this debate.
This debate has 4 more rounds before the voting begins. If you want to receive email updates for this debate, click the Add to My Favorites link at the top of the page.

By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use.