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The Instigator
kenballer
Pro (for)
The Contender
billsands
Con (against)

Genesis was Divinely Inspired

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Started: 1/6/2020 Category: Religion
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Debating Period
Viewed: 315 times Debate No: 123808
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kenballer

Pro

This debate will be about whether the Genesis account was Divinely inspired, Which will cover the first three chapters of the Genesis account plus noah"s story BUT nothing beyond it. Here what the Divine inspiration hypothesis entails.

The human writer(s) could not have reasonably known "this amount of information" (I. E. First three chapters plus Noah) about the natural world back then "without being wrong". Emphasis on the phrases I quoted; These two elements "combined" would show it must have been divinely inspired.

I will first tried to affirm the propostion by showcasing three confirmed predictions (I. E. Origin of Universe, Plants before animals, The location of Garden of Eden) from genesis that were reportedly criticized and thus, Predicted by skeptics before they were eventually confirmed.

Then, My Opponent CON will be the one attempting show how Genesis account could have reasonably been inspired by humans OR CON can focus his efforts on disproving the Divine inspiration hypothesis by showing how the Genesis account was INconsistent with science and reason or do both.

Thus, The argument is not whether the people who wrote Genesis knew about stuff that no one else could possibly know or guess at the time, But the AMOUNT OF information about nature at the time. However, This would NOT automatically prove the human writers were divinely inspired because the accuracy of the Genesis account would have to also be scientifically and logically flawless as well. What really proves the Divine inspiration hypothesis is a combination of the two.

Lastly, This will NOT involve me showing how the Genesis account is "consistent" with science and reason. Instead, I will be showing how all of CON's objections failed to show the Genesis account was "INconsistent" with science/reason and/or show the human inspiration hypothesis could be true.

If CON does not have any objections, This will be a concession on his part that the Genesis account provides an accurate scientific account but could still focus on proving his position is true to derail my argument. This means that I mainly have the BOF in this debate.

First round will be acceptance only

Last round will not have new objections.
billsands

Con

its a really great band an solsbury hill is one of my favorite songs but i don't think god had much to do with it, It was talent and a lot of hard work like everything else in life
Debate Round No. 1
kenballer

Pro

For centuries, The scientific consensus held to a static and an eternal universe, But Christianity and the bible was the only monotheistic religion that specifically predicted that the universe had a beginning from the Genesis account. In addition, The scientific consensus claimed that land plants came after sea animals appeared even though the Genesis account claimed that they appeared before it. This includes skeptics, Such as Talkorigins, Who have claimed for years that Genesis has gotten the creation order wrong.

For example, "Beginning in 2009, Scientists pushed back the probable development of complex photosynthetic plants on land to ~850 million years ago through the study of carbon isotope ratios in Precambrian rocks. However, In 2011, A study was published that pushed back the date of the origin of photosynthetic eukaryotes on land to at least one billion years ago, Including fossil evidence of their existence. "[1][2]

Finally, Genesis 2 claims that the Pishon, Gihon, Tigris, And Euphrates Rivers all meet together in Eden. Instead, As skeptics have pointed out, Nowhere on the planet do the four rivers come together as Genesis 2 suggests. However, All four rivers do flow into different parts of the Persian Gulf. And it now appears the four rivers would have converged in what a researcher, Named Rose, Identifies as the Gulf Oasis. For example, A new review of the archeological literature reveals evidence that the Persian Gulf region was once a lush oasis, During the last glacial maximum.

At that time, Sea levels were much lower, Meaning that virtually all of the Persian Gulf was a large floodplain above sea level. More than 60 archeological sites, Some of which are currently submerged, Show that the area was extensively inhabited. The study describes four rivers, The Tigris and Euphrates Rivers from Mesopotamia, The Karun River (biblical Pishon? ) draining the Iranian Plateau, And the Wadi Batin River (biblical Gihon? ) flowing across northern Arabia. The convergence of the four rivers, Along with subterranean aquifers, Resulted in what the author described as the "Persian Gulf Oasis. "

According to the study, "This evidence is used to construct a model of human occupation around the basin over the course of the last 100, 000 years. As Rose points out, The Gulf Oasis was also watered by springs upwelling from subterranean aquifers. Genesis 2:6 also states that "streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground. "[3][4]

Genesis 7:11 identifies "springs of the great deep" as part of the source of the flood waters that wreaked havoc upon the ungodly of Noah"s generation, Which would explain why today"s geography is different compared to the past. Thus, The Gulf Oasis vindicates the unique claims Genesis makes about the Garden of Eden and its surroundings.

[1] Knauth, L. P. And M. J. Kennedy 2009. The late Precambrian greening of the Earth.
[2] Strother, P. K. , L. Battison, M. D. Brasier and C. H. Wellman. 2011. Earth's earliest non-marine eukaryotes.

[3] Jeffrey I. Rose, "New Light on Human Prehistory in the Arabo-Persian Gulf Oasis, " Current Anthropology 51
[4] Jeanna Bryner, "Lost Civilization May Have Existed Beneath the Persian Gulf, " LiveScience
billsands

Con

the bible is a book of fairy tales and is in no we historically or scientifically accurate, Any scholer knows this, The world is not flat, It was not created in 6 days
Debate Round No. 2
kenballer

Pro

If CON does not back up his assertations in the next two rounds, He will be conceding my position via debate rules.
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Debate Round No. 5
7 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 7 records.
Posted by kenballer 2 years ago
kenballer
Thanks backwards, I think that worked.
Posted by backwardseden 2 years ago
backwardseden
genesis was divinely inspired by what?

Btw @ kenballer there is many possible reasons why your argument/ posts were not accepted by DDO. . .
A golden rule is compose all of your arguments, No exceptions, None, In google docs as every word you type is automatically saved and then when you are finished all you have to do is simply copy and paste it into your argument or post on DDO.
* DDO hates extended links. Remove them. This is why most, Though not all arguments or posts are erased by DDO. Now it does take some extended links. It depends on the codes of that link. DDO does take youtube links unless they are extended links.
* DDO hates some bible verses. Remove them. Now it does accept some bible verses, It does depend on which ones.
* DDO does not take curse words of any kind. Remove them. Remove the word a$$ as a simple word.
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* Do not use "no no no no no" in other words, Repeating the same thing too often. DDO will not take it.
Posted by Leaning 2 years ago
Leaning
Might be something, 'in your argument that is causing the system to not accept it.
Posted by kenballer 2 years ago
kenballer
Something's wrong with the system because its not accepting the submission of my argument.
Posted by BobbyPandaram 2 years ago
BobbyPandaram
while the clock is ticking, It's doing so thinking that con has accepted the challenge. However, Con just made a statement that doesn't suggest acceptance.
Posted by BobbyPandaram 2 years ago
BobbyPandaram
while the clock is ticking, It's doing so thinking that con has accepted the challenge. However, Con just made a statement that doesn't suggest acceptance.
Posted by zapshe 2 years ago
zapshe
Genesis is divinely inspired. I believe it was Zeus who inspired it - he thought he'd have a good laugh at the idiots who read it.
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