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God exists no matter what

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Started: 2/24/2020 Category: Religion
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Debating Period
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Let's say the universe is created by an external force: That force is god. Theism.

Let's say the universe created itself: Universe is god. Deism/Pantheism.

Prove how universe doesn't exist in order to win.


I see how you referred to the universe as god and to win you have to prove that the universe is not real. I thought this was a pretty good point, However, The universe can't actually be a god. According to a dictionary of the definition of god, It says, "A superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity. " Now, It is clearly obvious that the universe is not a superhuman being or a spirit. In addition, The universe does not have power over human fortunes, So, The universe is not god. Which means, There is no god.
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A god can be any entity, And in case, You have to prove why the universe is not an entity. Look at other gods. Some gods are just energy.
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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Saltc 1 year ago
our universe is not real were in simulation in a super computer somewhere
Posted by chaotic38 1 year ago
So when I saw this, I was prepared to jump in and debate against this, But as I was doing my research there was one definition I found: "an image, Idol, Animal, Or other object worshiped as divine or symbolizing a god. " So as long as at least one person worships something like a god, By technicality, There is a god, Regardless of whether it is a real being or metaphysical object. So, Despite being an Athiest, I will have to concede this one and say, Yes, By technicality as long as one person worships something, There is a god, Whether that god is real or not.

I will say that your wording is flawed, But your point I will concede.
Posted by anc2006 1 year ago
Well we defined that god created and controlled the universe. It could be a field of force. At this place the god is not used in the christian sense. It is not an excuse, It is defined as the creator and controller of the entire unverse.
Posted by Turk082 1 year ago
I really do hate to say this to our atheist friends, But according to the smartest man in the world, Chris Langan, G-d exists. Like it or not, There are wise men who say that G-d exists.

Thus, Albert Einstein said: "I believe in Spinoza"s G-d who reveals Himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, Not in a G-d who concerns Himself with fates and actions of human beings. "
Posted by backwardseden 1 year ago
You're bouncing back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. Do you REALLY have ---any--- idea as to what on earth you are talking about? Here's an idea, Call it Gaia Mother Earth in which case has not been intertwined nor averted nor changed. It's not an invented excuse of "theism" in which case is easily butt crunched into the 33, 480 denominations + of christianity without any problem. You cannot come along and go "POOF" here this thing is and "SHEBANG" it exists. Now test, Demonstrate, Then assert, Then declare and then send your ideas off to one, Just one scientific community of merit that is not theistic, After all you cannot be biased, And not be laughed out of their buildings(s), In which case you will be as a "god" nobody else in the history of the human race ever has ---any--- evidence for.
"Assume that we have no answer. Then the answer is "I don"t know". The answer isn"t "I can"t think of anything better, Therefore a god did it. ""Matt Dillahunty
That's exactly to the letter what you do. You can't think of anything better, Therefore you think a god did it.
Here's something that will help you that came on yesterday's atheist experience as it's talked about all---the---time. The subject makes no difference.
https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=e2_Q1uxASeU
01:12:03 Tom - (CA): Can you explain Our Lady of Guadalupe? (Real Miracles! . . . Not)
Posted by anc2006 1 year ago
I won't stop until someone mentions that this is irrefutable or someone proves that the universe is a hoax.
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