The Instigator
kyleniel
Pro (for)
The Contender
Leaning
Con (against)

I won't get a girlfriend

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Started: 4/4/2019 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Debating Period
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kyleniel

Pro

I'm a bigot, Am possibly mentally ill (sociopathic, I believe), I don't care about my parents and sometimes hate them when I'm angry, I am going nowhere in life, I'm spoiled, I lie alot, I'm kind of retarded, Have crossings with Incels and SJWs, I have self loathing, I am average and want girls who are out of my league, Who are also traditionally feminine. I am also generally unhealthy.
Leaning

Con

Being a bigot doesn't mean a person will never get a girlfriend, Though it might hurt one's odds a bit, Specially if they aren't willing to change themselves or their behavior. Altogether, Or just around people. Though I'd suggest altogether myself. My dad didn't really represent himself all that honestly to my mother when they first met, When they dated, And when they married. Some twenty years go by and she divorced him. Currently he's on his third marriage (Youch). But hey, People have fallibilities and flaws, Doesn't mean we 'have to change them.

Why would sociopathy prevent you from having a relationship? Sure Wikipedia says things like lack of remorse, Controlling others, Deviant tendencies, Ignoring others needs and what not. But in a broad view of it I can imagine a sociopath with enough self awareness and motivation to have a normal seeming relationship.

One simply has to realize that their own happiness matters.
And a way to go about keeping your own happiness is to have a give in take relationship with other people. Not trying to control them or ignoring their needs, Because even if you get away with it, There's a small risk each time. It's like crime, Sure it 'could be easy to get away with, But why steal something that you could buy easy enough? Why risk a relationship for some cheap control you don't really need?

So you like to lay around, Bah who doesn't? Well some people. Anyway, Find a girl who does, Or find some reason you like more than lying around and change yourself.

Going nowhere in life, Right now. Eh, So are some girls. And besides, That's just right now, Doesn't stop you from choosing to go somewhere.

Self loathing? Eh, Common enough. Part of life people live with now and then.

Generally unhealthy, Eh so are some girls.

Eh, Main part is, There's plenty enough girls with the same issues as you.
Plenty of guys with the same issues as you who have girlfriends.
Even you issues don 'sound that bad as to stop you in dating.
Then there's the odds, As a thousand girls to date, You think a thousand will say no?
And lastly, You can change if you wanted.
Debate Round No. 1
kyleniel

Pro

Name one girl who likes these things.
Leaning

Con

I don't know girls in your area, And I'm not going to go online to dating sites to look for specific girls, But here's something to Google

15-reasons-why-ladies-love-the-dadbod
Debate Round No. 2
kyleniel

Pro

Those reasons don't apply to me or address any of my real issues.
Leaning

Con

A person often gets what they give in life. I think I've given a fair bit. Yourself though? Hard to debate something I have little knowledge of.
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Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by oalks 3 years ago
oalks
omar2345 - To be honest, Your conception of religion seems so superficial it's a miracle in and of itself. Not to mention it's mostly inaccurate.

I never said they couldn't attempt introspection, I said they wouldn't introspective. If he was sociopathic the behavior he mentioned wouldn't illicit introspection. I'm not sure if you're willfully ignoring the suffix, But it seems to me you are.

A sociopath would not be bothered with the behavior he mentioned due to his/her antisocial tendencies and lack of empathy.
Posted by omar2345 3 years ago
omar2345
@oalks

You can be doing introspection and still be immoral. Religion is a perfect example of that.

You didn't deny anything I said about socio-paths instead added onto my arguments.
Posted by oalks 3 years ago
oalks
omar2345 - Serial killers and psycopaths rationalize their psychopathology. Sociopaths aren't killers for the most part, They're just generally manipulative and have a lack of empathy.

In short, A sociopath will manipulate and exhibit ANTI-social behavior. Not necessarily asociality, Which is more common than most think.

Also, I said that if he's immoral he wouldn't be introspective, Don't strawman my comments please.
Posted by omar2345 3 years ago
omar2345
@oalks

Don't see how having a moral compass requires an introspection. That is something you are adding it. Plenty of I am sure serial killers introspect but they do it in order to find their next victim.

A sociopath can still be one and still feel sad about certain. A full sociopath would feel nothing negative about a negative moment but I don't Pro is one.

Blow-up dolls I would consider stupid. The human interaction is non-existence and it is basically an in-animate look alike of a human sex toy. Don't see how that is going to help him instead have same kind of thing to vent his frustration out of but that frustration will still be there the next time he has to do the thing.
Posted by omar2345 3 years ago
omar2345
@Masterful

See the part I was talking about.
Do tell me if you have a problem with it.
Posted by oalks 3 years ago
oalks
kyleniel - If you're a sociopath, Would you associate guilt with such a thing? It seems to me if your moral compass was innately flawed you wouldn't be overly introspective. Also, It's normal to hate most things when you're indredibly angry (that's the nature of the emotion itself).

It also isn't about being the best in many ways, Try developing and practicing some form of specialty (e. G. , Pickup, Exercise, Humor). If you were truly socipathic you would already be using one of these things to manipulate.

I apologize for the comment about the blow-up doll, It was immature of me.
Posted by oalks 3 years ago
oalks
Have you tried a blow-up doll?
Posted by Leaning 3 years ago
Leaning
A fair bit.
Posted by Masterful 3 years ago
Masterful
I couldn't be bothered to read through the debate in the comments, But i'm sure you've both gone off topic
Posted by omar2345 3 years ago
omar2345
@Leaning

I have nothing more to add.
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