The Instigator
Leaning
Pro (for)
The Contender
billsands
Con (against)

If making a large sum of money in a short time was your goal, Crime would be 'most effective

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Started: 12/7/2019 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Debating Period
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Leaning

Pro

There are caveats to this debate, We are assuming for the debate, That the person has
Average intelligence.
Average education (Highschool)
By 'effective we mean successful in producing a desired or intended result.
For short time, Let's stipulate between 1 month and 6 months.

If you accept this debate you accept debating with the 'spirit of what I intend by this argument.
This meaning that to either side, Definitions are a bit more fluid, Not set in stone, A bit more free to come and go. The voters, If any shall judge whether the 'spirit is kept.
Voters are free to vote however they like without having to make some intricate argument to justify their vote, Although I would appreciate it if they are good sports and honest about it.


Well then, I'll make a 'bit of an argument, Here in the first round

What's to stop one from making a quick amount of legal money?
I assert without evidence unless asked,
The 'amount of money is less
The time is longer
The chance is smaller

Most well paying jobs require higher education or experience, Or require you to have worked and saved for retirement.
It's not likely to think of a genius idea, Be given a well paying job by a kind fellow, Or win the lottery.

While on the other hand, To anyone with average intelligence, Crime is about morality. By that I don't mean that anyone with average intelligence agrees with me on this, But am instead insinuating that anyone with average intelligence, Ought be able to
Think of a plan that makes a good amount of money
In a short time
And isn't likely to fail

An argument 'might be made that legally a person with average intelligence could just as easily do the same.
I disagree.
Just as easily?
I don't think so.

I assert without evidence unless asked
That the barriers to committing crime are
Conformity, Or morality, Law, And tradition.
Fear of punishment.
Lack of inclination.

Since we are discussing what 'would be the most effective means, What use is fear, Inclination, Or morality?
Except in identifying that most people do not commit crime largescale, Thus leaving it's market more open than the legal sector.
billsands

Con

Leaving the issue of the harm you do to society or morality because yea a lot of legal businesses do a lot of harm, Crime is risky violence is involved the police may shoot you and you may get gang raped in jail when you are caught so. . But maybe you enjoy that sort of thing, Lots of guys do
Debate Round No. 1
Leaning

Pro

Those are the consequences of failure. Not the likelihood of the act itself.
Fear of punishment is one of the reasons people do not commit crime.

I argue that an intelligent person would be able to get away with a crime scot free, More often than a person be able to succeed legally at amassing a fortune in a short time.
billsands

Con

a lot of very smart people thik they can get away with it. Bernie madoof harvey weinstien jeffrey epstien prisons ar efull of smart psycopaths. . So are the morges
Debate Round No. 2
Leaning

Pro

I am sure that condos, Mansions, And swimming pools, Are also full of smart psychopaths.

It's a bit of an appeal to authority, But do humans not often look to the intelligent for guidance on what sort of activity would be prudent, Or well advised?

It seems to me a common enough caricature of the rich to imagine then as oft making use of their money to further 'skirt the law.
To evade tax.
To pay their children into college.

People get caught, Sure.
But there is a maxim I heard once, "Crime pays. "
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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Leaning 2 years ago
Leaning
Admittedly, It seems pretty stupid on general, To me. For a person to commit crime. Plenty of reasons against it. But reasons for any action come about in the right times, People, And situations. . . Requirements simply need to be met.

People commit crimes plenty when
The punishment is small.
The crime seems just.
The need overwhelms.
Posted by Leaning 2 years ago
Leaning
Hm, What does that phrase mean, Anyway?
Scot free?
Is it some sort of reference to Scottish people?
Hm, Google search. . .
Scandinavian taxes? Huh.
Posted by Leaning 2 years ago
Leaning
Blazes, That was quick.
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