The Instigator
XavYourSavio
Pro (for)
The Contender
billsands
Con (against)

It should be legal to shoot someone that has broke into your home.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/10/2019 Category: Society
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Debating Period
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XavYourSavio

Pro

If someone breaks into your home, You should be able to shoot them until they're no longer a threat without any retribution.
billsands

Con

I'm torn on this your home is your castle but i'm afraid this leads to the travon martin scenario where every time some kid mouths off or does something stupid, Some angry white guy gets a pass on a hate crime. If the intruder is armed with any sort of weapon fine kill him, If he refuses to surrender if he lunges for your gun, Other wise i sincerely feel the civiliized rule would be a duty to retreat and call the police, If there is no safe way to retreat, Just blow the dirt bag away, If they ar ein your house, They are a legitimate thrat your duty to show restraint is minimal
Debate Round No. 1
XavYourSavio

Pro

"this leads to the travon martin scenario where every time some kid mouths off or does something stupid, Some angry white guy gets a pass on a hate crime. "

Travon Martin did not illegally enter his home neither attempted to break in according to all the articles I have read on that situation. So it would not make sense to apply that as an argument in this debate. He fatally shot him while he was not in his home, So I do not understand why are you trying to apply this here. He was not in his home, I am not talking about self-defense in general, Rather self-defense in the particular event, Your home is broken into. Yes, I get it 'white man bad black good he didnt do nuffin', However, That is not what I am talking about.

"If the intruder is armed with any sort of weapon fine kill him, If he refuses to surrender if he lunges for your gun, Other wise i sincerely feel the civiliized rule would be a duty to retreat and call the police, If there is no safe way to retreat, Just blow the dirt bag away, If they are in your house, They are a legitimate thrat your duty to show restraint is minimal"

The problem with this is you do not always know if they are armed. They could have a knife and appear not to be armed only to surprise you. They could be hiding and waiting to get the upper hand on you when you do not expect it. "Retreat and call the police" that is often how people are killed. If you are hiding in a closet and the intruder finds you there you have nowhere to go and if they're armed, Well, You're going to be at a disadvantage and could be easily killed as they have cover to go to. You're also disregarding the fact that people have families. So let's say you have a family of 5, Someone breaks in, What do you do? Run and hide? No, It makes sense that someone would want to protect their family from an intruder instead of running and hiding and relying on hope. If someone breaks into your home the obvious answer is to call 911, But sometimes you have to react at the moment so that is not always the first choice. "They are a legitimate thrat your duty to show restraint is minimal" Yeah and that includes shooting them until they are no longer a threat.
billsands

Con

well it is your duty to make a good faith effort to find out, You yell i am armed let me see your hands, Let me see your hands, If they don't do that? You shoot them, But i think you have to give them a chance at least to save their lives, I mean most burlgars are just there for your stuff you can't kill a person just for that
Debate Round No. 2
XavYourSavio

Pro

If someone has broken into your home you are not obligated into finding if they're armed or not. They are already a threat, They have forcefully broken into your home and are dangerous already. The goal isn't to kill them, But to neutralize them until they're not a threat. And that is enough reason to kill them. Like I said they've broken into your home, They're already dangerous.

" mean most burglars are just there for your stuff you can't kill a person just for that"

Some have killed people. Some have raped people. Their intent may not be to harm you, But some will do so without a second thought. All they care for is themselves, Not your safety.
I agree, If someone has broken into your home you should give them a chance to capitulate themselves but in the event, You shoot them you should not face retribution. It is their accountability for doing something illegal in the first place.
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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by XavYourSavio 2 years ago
XavYourSavio
Australia is a weird place so I couldn't care less what they do there.
Posted by XavYourSavio 2 years ago
XavYourSavio
Australia is a weird place so I couldn't careless what they do there.
Posted by meacoppahater 2 years ago
meacoppahater
texas says shoot
Posted by mehdisufi 2 years ago
mehdisufi
shoot him or her. Period
Posted by mehdisufi 2 years ago
mehdisufi
shoot him or her. Period
Posted by billsands 2 years ago
billsands
i'd like to point out the homicide rate in australia is 1. 0 in texas? Its 5 per 100 000
Posted by billsands 2 years ago
billsands
Texas rules?
Posted by billsands 2 years ago
billsands
your not from taxas are you you shoot an intruder they give you free ammo as a reward
Posted by Brendo 2 years ago
Brendo
Don"t do this in Australia. You will be the one going to jail.
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