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Muslim restriction on pork is outdated

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Started: 1/7/2020 Category: Religion
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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anc2006

Pro

I am not remotely even saying that this is wrong: it applies to the histories, Where the meatpacking industry was not optimized like today.

Before revealing the meatpacking industry, Let's see the primary source: the Quran.

"And the pig, Because it has a cloven hoof that is completely split, But will not regurgitate its cud; it is unclean for you. You shall not eat of their flesh, And you shall not touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you. "

This is utter ridicule under today's biology science and even culinary arts. Many non-Muslim chefs cook pork in their daily basis for them to eat. The fact is the only reason this existed is that in the old the meatpacking industry for pork is not sanitary(same problem continued in the US until the 20th century) to be eaten healthily. But today's society is improved enough to, Just let them eat pork. Giving a muslim a clearly-sanitary piece of pork that is evidently as clean as beef, Lamb, With the cleaning procedures and the cooking procedures presented that are approved as sanitary by all departments of such service in the entire world, It gives enough reason for her to eat it. But no: somehow, She just refuses because the Quran said no. Keep in mind Quran does not update, And if the Quran did not see the improvement in meatpacking industry, It will not lift the ban. The scenario above is the same as a Nissan fan not buying a tesla car because 40 years ago Tesla have not a single car released. How is this rational? If a tesla is more clean and fast, Buy the tesla. If the pork provide the nutrients you need without going to the pharmacy 3 miles away, Eat it.

Just eat all the inspected meat in the entire world. They are inspected. But if the muslims are stubborn enough to not eat 2020 pork, Then go ahead, No one forces. But the fact is that pork is not as unsanitary as the past, And it is sanitary enough to to be eaten without a ware.

And no, Quran classifying animals' edibility by how they function is incorrect in this society where they can clean anything and make anything delicious, At least pork.
convincingperson

Con

Yo god is not real therefore religion is outdated. Religion was used back in the day where knowledge of the world and the universe was little to unknown. No one know where we came from so the created religion. Now we know we cave from apes through evolution so there is no point in religion. Therefore I argue that restriction on pork is not outdated because religion is outdated. Lmao what am i talking about
Debate Round No. 1
anc2006

Pro

You are agreeing with me. You are arguing that pork restriction is outdated as well. Of course it is not outdated to the religion, But in general it is outdated because Islam is very old. It is up to the opponent to decide what to do, Whether it is to forfeit, To play devil's advocate, Or something else.
convincingperson

Con

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Debate Round No. 2
anc2006

Pro

I rest my case.
convincingperson

Con

ok boomer
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by anc2006 2 years ago
anc2006
And the source is here. Http://notes. Io/88V4

You are not messing with me. You are joking the science. As much as the Quran is correct, It may be wrong at other areas. The Quran does not update like Science does.
Posted by anc2006 2 years ago
anc2006
@tea_manna:
I mean, This is why I am not an atheist. I am an agnostic person. But look at this:

"He has just told us to believe in this fact. "

So our god jut told us in blind faith, Just let us think he exits without any non-Quran proof. This is like saying unicorns exist because trump drew pink little unicorns in his office. The fact that God used blind faith can let us attract to his religion, But outside of that, No evidence. . . ?

As a person who aced middle school science, I would also refute this quote of yours:
"You go to your friend's house and you see a baked cake on the counter. When you ask her who made it, She replies that the cake baked itself. Would you believe it? Atheism is just like that. It gives the message that the universe made itself. "

The universe is much more intricate and much more immense than a piece of cake made by a girl living in your neighborhood. As that, At least the universe is not a cake. The cake does not contain considerable amounts of dark energy and dark matter, Nor does it have considerable amounts of gravity, Superfluids, Black holes, Alien civilizations, Neuron stars, Nor does it need any intelligence in order to exist, Consider it is not an engine of artificial intelligence.

In simple words, Unlike a cake, The universe CAN create itself. But what is god? The field or energy that created the big bang, Or an old wise man sitting on top of clouds?

I could define god as the energy that triggered the big bang, But does the Quran say so? How does a field of energy communicate with words and morality specifically fitted for humans? The fact is pointing to theism, But the fact is also straying away from the Jesus or Allah type of god.
Posted by tea_manna 2 years ago
tea_manna
@anc_2006. Imagine this. You go to your friend's house and you see a baked cake on the counter. When you ask her who made it, She replies that the cake baked itself. Would you believe it? Atheism is just like that. It gives the message that the universe made itself. Do you see electricity? Do you see the air? Do you see atoms? But do you believe it? Obviously, You do. Our Lord has made us and everything in this universe. He has just told us to believe in this fact. Forgive me if I have hurt you.
Posted by anc2006 2 years ago
anc2006
"This life is a test and the reason why we are restricted to consume some foods is that our Lord is testing us and seeing whether we get easily influenced by what other people are doing. "

No offense, But as a non-muslim doesn't God easily influenced us, Which is the same as the others? I mean, Evidently, Atheism is as proven as Islam, If not more. Islam is mostly faith and less fact. Atheism is based on fact, Because if this happened, God cannot exist. How could Islams put on that?
Posted by tea_manna 2 years ago
tea_manna
As a Muslim myself, Restrictions on pork is kinda outdated in my opinion. But our Lord has not put any obligations upon us, Telling that we must and only listen to Him. He has given us the freedom to think and the freedom to choose. I believe, That as a Muslim we have the rights to believe and practice anything we want. The only difference will be the result on the Day of Judgement. This life is a test and the reason why we are restricted to consume some foods is that our Lord is testing us and seeing whether we get easily influenced by what other people are doing. Therefore, Even if restrictions on pork is kinda outdated, We still practice it because we have strong faith.
Posted by convincingperson 2 years ago
convincingperson
life could be a dream
Posted by convincingperson 2 years ago
convincingperson
nay
Posted by anc2006 2 years ago
anc2006
The only apology I accept is if you challenge me with the same topic and you give me reasons with sources.
Posted by convincingperson 2 years ago
convincingperson
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Posted by anc2006 2 years ago
anc2006
I want you to leave this site.
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