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backwardseden
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Adolf_Hitler1488
Con (against)

Nobody needs or requires a god to better their lives

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Started: 8/26/2019 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Debating Period
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backwardseden

Pro

Nobody needs or requires a god and or a supreme deity, Especially of Abrahamic religions, Namely from the texts of the torah, The bible, Or the quan to better their lives.

Why?
1. Nobody has ever proven a god from any religion has ever existed.
2. Text is not proof of a god's existence. And no god would be ignorant enough to use text, Passages and verses, Not ever, Not for any reason as a form of correspondence, The absolute worst form of correspondence possible to a god and or supreme deity when if a true god could simply talk to all of man as an example.
3. Faith is not proof of a god's existence. Why would a god use faith instead of evidence to advertise its existence? Especially when the unproven god of the big 3 in its printed verse is entirely about a superior ego god complex? It wouldn't.
4. We have all risen above what these petty unproven gods do.
5. We are better than printed controlled power and fear than the texts of the torah, Bible and quran and its unproven god brings. Especially from belief only.
6. We all deserve better. Because we are all better than an unproven god.
7. Believe in yourself.
8. Believe in peace, Love, Kindness, Care, Harmony, Compassion and not the immorality of an evil, Anger, Wrath, Vengeance, Rage, Fury, Jealous HUMAN baggage emotion unproven god.

Dsjpk5 is disqualified from the voting procedures as he tries to pretend he's god and thus change the voting structure of who wins and loses here on DDO.
Adolf_Hitler1488

Con

It cannot be contended that THERE IS AN OBJECTIVE REALITY. It is the observable universe. One can look out for 13 billion light years, And notice the grandeur and utter awe of our beautiful universe. The average person before the enlightment was religious for these such reasons. They looked out at the fields, At the moon, At the universe, At the tides, And noticed that it was all just perfect. In fact so perfect, I do dare say, That a Supreme Being must have made it so. Saying otherwise is like saying that 2+2=5. It just makes no sense. The universe cannot simply come from nothing in a linear fasion! That would be preposterous and crazy to state! But, It would be quite impossible for the universe, Or anything in the universe for that matter, To create the univese itself. Nobody can time-travel before time and create the universe, And nor can the universe itself. The "Uncaused Force" that is the supreme being must exist outside of our lowly 3 dimensional universe, And time must be like a rive for it. It can swim backwards and fowards (and maybe even sideways if alternative universes exist! ), While all the time watching the idiotic life forms that it created caught in the strength of the stream, Only being able to speed up fowards, Never turning around, And never moving sideways. That supreme being must know all things, The future, The past, All information, Everything that can possibly be thought IT has thought.

Now, That I have gotten the argument out of the way that a supreme being doesn't exist I can get to the juicy stuff.

1) It cannot be contended that THERE IS AN OBJECTIVE REALITY. It is the observable universe. One can look out for 13 billion light years, And notice the grandeur and utter awe of our beautiful universe. The average person before the enlightenment was religious for these such reasons. They looked out at the fields, At the moon, At the universe, At the tides, And noticed that it was all just perfect. In fact so perfect, I do dare say, That a Supreme Being must have made it so. Saying otherwise is like saying that 2+2=5. It just makes no sense. The universe cannot simply come from nothing in a linear fashion! That would be preposterous and crazy to state! But, It would be quite impossible for the universe, Or anything in the universe for that matter, To create the universe itself. Nobody can time-travel before time and create the universe, And nor can the universe itself. The "Uncaused Force" that is the supreme being must exist outside of our lowly 3 dimensional universe, And time must be like a rive for it. It can swim backwards and forwards (and maybe even sideways if alternative universes exist! ), While all the time watching the idiotic life forms that it created caught in the strength of the stream, Only being able to speed up forwards, Never turning around, And never moving sideways. That supreme being must know all things, The future, The past, All information, Everything that can possibly be thought IT has thought.

Now, That I have gotten the argument out of the way that a supreme being doesn't exist I can get to the juicy stuff.

1) Morality was probably created by evolution, Seeing as different species, And different races all around the globe have different moralities. People in Papua New Guinea eat the corpses of their family members, Arabic Muslims think that it's okay to decapitate and torture the infidels, We Americans are very degenerate and watch a lot of porn, And North Koreans are very stoic, Serious, And traditional. If a God created mankind only 7000 years ago like it says in the Bible, Morality would be a lot more similar throughout the Human Species.

2) Seeing as morality was probably create by evolution, And NOT instituted by a divine power, A lot of humans will think that morality is entirely subjective, Although a sane person knows, Without doubt, In his/her heart that THERE ARE OBJECTIVE MORALS THAT ALL HUMANS ABIDE BY.

Some examples are (although not all humans abide by this, There are insane people in this world too) people always take for and love members of their culture, They respect their parents, They tell the truth to their friends, They don't hurt their loved ones, Etc. Etc.

This example I am stealing in part from my pastor, But, Imagine morality look a heavy object tied to the end of a string, And the string is hanging from (insert object here). Now, That line will fall straight down towards the center of Earth's gravity, And will wiggle and jiggle around a bit. Just as that string vibrates ever so slightly, Yet it still is pretty much a straight line, So is morality the same. If the line starts swaying back in forth it will fall out of balance, And so as would society fall out of balance if morality became subjective.

Furthermore, Only 16% of people that live on this planet are non-religious. So that means that the majority of humans probably don't believe in evolution. They probably derive their morality from their instinct and their culture. If one were to remove those religions, The people would be in anarchy, And chaos would spread across the globe. There are even some people that believe in Evolution that believe that the only thing holding them back from raping a child is society, And, If it weren't for the laws, That person would do it. Now, If people were to think that a supreme being wanted them to act moral, And not politicians whom the populous don't trust, The populous would be a lot more law-abiding, And moral people.

Moving on, A lot of people in the West have become degenerate negative nihilists because (although many of them are still religous), They are losing the religious culture that has defined the West for so many centuries. The average person is not smart enough to be a positive nihilist.

What is the difference bet created by evolution, Seeing as different species, And different races all around the globe have different moralities. People in Papue New Guinea eat the corpses of their family members, Arabic muslims think that it's okay to decapitate and torture the infidels, We Americans are very degenerate and watch a lot of porn, And North Koreans are very stoic, Serious, And traditional. If a God created makind only 7000 years ago like it says in the Bible, Morality would be a lot more similar throughout the Human Species.

2) Seeing as morality was probably create by evolution, And NOT instituted by a divine power, A lot of humans will think that morality is entirely subjective, Although a sane person knows, Without doubt, In his/her heart that THERE ARE OBJECTIVE MORALS THAT ALL HUMANS ABIDE BY.

Some examples are (although not all humans abide by this, There are insane people in this world too) people always take for and love members of their culture, They respect their parents, They tell the truth to their friends, They don't hurt their loved ones, Etc. Etc.

This example I am stealing in part from my pastor, But, Imagine morality look a heavy object tied to the end of a string, And the string is hanging from (insert object here). Now, That line will fall straight down towards the center of Earth's gravity, And will wiggle and jiggle around a bit. Just as that string vibrates ever so slightly, Yet it still is pretty much a straight line, So is morality the same. If the line starts swaying back in forth it will fall out of balance, And so as would society fall out of balance if morality became subjective.

Furthermore, Only 16% of people that live on this planet are non-religious. So that means that the majority of humans probably don't believe in evolution. They probably derive their morality from their extinct and their culture. If one were to remove those religions, The people would be in anarchy, And chaos would spread across the globe. There are even some people that believe in Evolution that believe that the only thing holding them back from raping a child is society, And, If it weren't for the laws, That person would do it. Now, If people were to think that a supreme being wanted them to act moral, And not politicians whom the populous don't trust, The populous would be a lot more law-abiding, And moral people.

Moving on, A lot of people in the West have become degenerate negative nihilists because (although many of them are still religious), They are losing the religious culture that has defined the West for so many centuries. The average person is not smart enough to be a positive nihilist.

What is the difference between positive and negative nihilism you may very well ask? Well, Negative nihilism is pretty straightforward. It is the belief that after death is total extermination. There is no heaven, No hell, And nothin' in between. They believe that they will simply cease to exist, And so, The negative nihilist thinks to him/her self, "what is the point of life? What is the point of treading the muddy path of life just to go to school, To get a job, To pay for your student loan bills, To pay to live, So you can go to work, And repeat the process until retirement, Whereby by that age one is to crippled to appreciate life as much as a youngster would. " They think that the motto of the West might as well be, "Eat, Buy, Consume, Die, " and does that not seem realistic? Not to the positive nihilism, Although besides the point, Is the belief that after death is extermination, And we only get one life. YOLO. They believe that life is inherently valuable because we only have one, And it itself will be a blink of the eye in cosmic history. Life will stop existing countless years before the end of the universe. As I said earlier, Only above average intellectuals are positive nihilists.

So, In conclusion, Without religion there would be hopelessness, Anarchy and chaos. If idiots will succumb to religion, And you're not an idiot, Then you would have nothing to lose if you lived in a very-religious society. You would be woke, And rise to power, While the sheeple would be happily grazing on the grass.
Debate Round No. 1
backwardseden

Pro

I DO NOT communicate with spoiled brat 15 year old maggot nazi costume wearers and wage testicle homegrown barfing insect larvae slumbering under-the-bed one-of-three stooges like you. Now if you wish to change your avatars and identity, Then perhaps there can be a "possible" communication. Until then - ABSOLUTELY NOT.
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Posted by ScottTheChessGod 2 years ago
ScottTheChessGod
What the hell, I just look on your profile and saw your party. I didn't even know that existed. . . .
Posted by Adolf_Hitler1488 2 years ago
Adolf_Hitler1488
Here are some quote by Reichminister of propaganda Dr. Joseph Goebels

"Humanity would sink into eternal darkness, It would fall into a dull and primitive state, Were the Jews to win this war. "

"One day all the lies will collapse under their own weight, And the truth will once again triumph. " - Dr Joseph Goebels.

As you can see, The world IS falling into a dull and primitive state, And Jews are the ones responsible for it!

National Socialism and Fascism are returning among the intelligent youth all across the World, And Hitler's soul has returned from the dead, And victory shall be ours!

Seig heil viktoria!
Posted by billsands 2 years ago
billsands
ban nazis or at least that symbol
Posted by billsands 2 years ago
billsands
made the call to tel aviv sleep with your eyes open goyum
Posted by billsands 2 years ago
billsands
do i have to call my nephew in the mossad? Don't you love your family? Your inbred loser white trash family thats about to become a stain on the cement?
Posted by Adolf_Hitler1488 2 years ago
Adolf_Hitler1488
Deal with it you crybaby of a Kike.
Posted by billsands 2 years ago
billsands
there are limits to free speech, Why is that swastika allowed i find it offensive
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