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minho008
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aquariumkind
Con (against)

Pedosexualiy equals love, So Is a person sexuality wrong when it contradicts conservative ideology?

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minho008

Pro

Conservatives are treating pedosexuals just like they have with gays and transgender people. With disrespect and with evil intent. Therefore it is the conservatives who are the only problem here, And not pedosexuals or the rest of the LGBTP+ community. Age and consent never existed and the individual is in control of their lives, Not the conservatives.
aquariumkind

Con

You state conservatives are in the wrong for treating paedophiles wrongly, And compare them to the LGBT community. While to you this may make sense, This comparison doesn't hold. While there is the fact that both groups have been mistreated in history, This mistreatment is justified in the case of paedophiles.

First of all, There is no such thing as pedosexuality. A sexuality exists to answer the question "Which gender am I sexually attracted to? " For lesbians the answer is women, For bi people it's men and women, Ace people it's none, And so forth. . .
If given the answer "Pedosexual" one cannot derive what gender the individual is attracted to, Because a child is not a gender.

With that out of the way, I'd like to explain why I believe you cannot compare paedophiles to the LGBT community.

The primary goal of a relationship is to have a bond between two people that they both enjoy and consent to.
An LGBT relationship is one between two consenting adults of the same gender, Or perhaps of a non-binary gender; etc. . . The gender does not matter when deciding if the relationship is okay or not, Because fact remains it's between two consenting adults who love each other. Sure, Abusive relationships exist, But they sadly do so in every relationship type, And the abuse is not inherent. It's a small percentage of these relationships, And the abuse doesn't stem from the nature of these relationships, But from the nature of the specific people in them.

Arguments for disagreeing with LGBT relationships usually stem from some sort of holy scripture such as the bible, Torah or Quran. Since arguments based on thousand year old scriptures that also justify the mistreatment of women and other subjects such as slavery, We can conclude there is no reason to believe LGBT relationships are wrong". While I could provide several other arguments, This is not the main point of the debate, So I won't digress.

Meanwhile, A paedophilic relationship will always be wrong, Because it's between an adult an a child. The human brain isn't developed until 25 years of age". A child will always have an inherent disadvantage from an adult. An adult, With a fully developed brain, Can manipulate and abuse the child without the child being able to resist, And in some cases, Being able to recognise their situation as abuse. Not only is the child physically weaker, It's also mentally weaker. A child confides in the fact that the adult in it's life will support it and help it growing up. To not only want to abuse the child, But also to justify this abuse instead, Is abhorrent, Cruel, And revolting. Every single day we see cases of people being mentally abused to the point they feel they are unable to leave. These are fully developed adults in a situation they feel they cannot escape. Imagine how it must be to force this situation onto a child. There is not a single situation in which a romantic or sexual relationship between an adult and a child benefits, Helps, Or even leaves the child in a healthy mental state. Paedophilia is inherently abusive. Besides the inherent mental abuse, There's also the frequent physical abuse that manifests when the child tries to escape their situation, Yet their abuse persists, Out of a selfish desire.

This is the point you're missing, And you've unfortunately based your entire argument on it. Paedophilia is inherently abusive, An LGBT relationship is not. To simply state "Well, The right is mean to both gays and nonces, Therefore both must be justified! " is not only incorrect, But also damaging to a community of people that aren't abusers, Unlike paedophiles.

"The Bible and Violence - s. N. - https://en. Wikipedia. Org/wiki/The_Bible_and_violence (While I understand some people disregard wikipedia as a credible source, I encourage you to scroll to the bottom of the article to see the dozens and dozens of quoted sources, So many so that it is simply easier to link this article than to link each separate source. )

"The Teenage Brain: Why Some Years Are (a Lot) Crazier Than Others
R. Sapolsky - S. McFate - P. Ratner- Harvard- Rockefeller Universities- Stanford University- Research Associate- Institute of Primate Research- https://bigthink. Com/videos/what-age-is-brain-fully-developed
Debate Round No. 1
minho008

Pro

Yes conservatives are treating Pedosexuals badly. As you are now doing because you can't even use the correct terminology to describe this group of people. The comparisons do hold. For many years conservatives have forced gay people in the closet just like they are doing with Pedosexuality. Both groups are bullied, Both groups are threatened by death and persecution by the conservatives, And both groups are misrepresented.

No amount of persecution or mistreatment on humanity is justified. As the bill of rights clearly states, "we are all created equal". Like the black man was persecuted and tortured, Forced into slavery by conservatives, Pedosexuals are forced to suffer for something as natural as love, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Pedosexuality clearly exist. They are everywhere rather you realize it or not. A sexuality exist to answer the real question of what sexuality am I attracted to. Not gender. Gay people are attracted to gays. Straight people to other straight people etc. Yes gender has a part in it, But mainly it's the question of sexuality only. Again, Pedosexuals would be attracted to other Pedosexuals or even those who in this case have mixed sexualities. Which still has nothing to do with gender. Also the fact that a child does not exist. It is a proven fact that we are human beings.

The only reason why you can't compare Pedosexuals to the LGBTP+ community, Is because Pedosexuals are a equal part of said community. So there is nothing to compare. Nobody is better than anyone.

Consent never existed. The point of a relationship is for two or more people to enjoy the company of another human being. A relationship is not wrong. It is beautiful, Natural, And beneficial to the human race. What is wrong are conservatives like yourself who find it beneficial to destroy the very positivity of human nature and human interactions. Love has nothing to consort the physical. Therefore your point is moot. Because love does not need to be perfect or from a perfect being, It just has to exist and function properly. Which any human being can and has done.

Love is not a form of abuse. Nobody gets abused by love. Seeing how Pedosexuality like the rest of the LGBTP+ community is about love, I find it highly insulting to insinuate that somehow your sexuality outside of heterosexuality, Leads to abuse. Clearly your understanding of reality is blurred and you need an education, But anyone would know that love is not bound by age which never existed, But the love between two people no matter what their sexualities are, That can never be bound by numbers or conservative ideology aka freedom of expression which is A human right. So Pedosexuality would therefore be a protected group and what you are promoting is that it is ok to violate the human rights of humanity when their existence contradicts conservative ideology. Which ia discrimination and a form of degradation. Both of which is highly wrong amd anti human.

A persons sexuality is not abusive but your discriminatory slander against Pedosexuals are. Which is the same type of promotion that conservatives give against gays. Therefore leading back to my first point about how both gays and Pedosexuals are being unfairly treated by conservatives in this modern age.

The only abusers are conservatives like yourself who abuse people who are Pedosexuals and then make up excuses as to why you did it instead of understanding that nobody has to be like you and that its none of your business who a person has a relationship with not do you have the right to judge them. Which is exactly the same exact argument that gay people use against conservatives all the time.

I respect you as a human being bit your logic and ideology is corrupted at best. Because you see the LGBTP+ community as lab rats to be defined by corrupted conservative studies, Yet you won't recognize us as human beings. Therefore, I speak the truth, That conservatives and not Pedosexuals are the problem, Because it is a proven fact that conservatives have caused nothing but mayham and hostilities against the LGBTP+ community, None of which is justified, And is also qualified as a hate crime by the NAACP. Thank you.
aquariumkind

Con

I'll dissect your argument per paragraph because there's a lot to discuss
". . . " Both groups are bullied, Both groups are threatened by death and persecution by the conservatives, And both groups are misrepresented. " - Yet again, You make the comparison of LGBT and paedophiles purely from the "both are judged by the right" standpoint. As I've said before, This comparison does not hold. Simply stating two groups are judged by another does not make them equal. I'm sure the right judges murderers too, That doesn't mean I can equate LGBT to them.

"No amount of persecution or mistreatment on humanity is justified. . . " - I just think this is an interesting view for you to take seeing as you advocate for mistreatment of children.

" A sexuality exist to answer the real question of what sexuality am I attracted to. Not gender. Gay people are attracted to gays. Straight people to other straight people" - This can be debunked with just a little bit of common sense. A gay man is not attracted to a gay woman. A straight man won't be attracted to another straight man. Gender not only has a part in it, It is the only part in it.

"Also the fact that a child does not exist. It is a proven fact that we are human beings. " - Source? Saying that children don't exist has to be one of the most outrageous things I've ever heard. Besides the legal definition (Someone below the age of 18) There's also the hormonal definition (Someone below the age of puberty. ) and of course, The idea of someone below the age of full brain development. All three of these concepts equate to: someone who is not yet ready to fend for themselves.

The only people who argue paedophiles belong in the LGBT community, Are paedophiles themselves, In a desperate attempt to find widespread justification for their child abuse. You state I use the LGBT community as lab rats. I think you'll be surprised to find I am bisexual, And actually part of the community, Unlike paedophiles.

"Consent never existed. The point of a relationship is for two or more people to enjoy the company of another human being. A relationship is not wrong. It is beautiful, Natural, And beneficial to the human race. What is wrong are conservatives like yourself who find it beneficial to destroy the very positivity of human nature and human interactions. Love has nothing to consort the physical. Therefore your point is moot. Because love does not need to be perfect or from a perfect being, It just has to exist and function properly. Which any human being can and has done. " - Again, Provide me with a single source on this that isn't your opinion. Consent exists. If consent didn't exist, We wouldn't have rape cases going to court. We wouldn't have domestic abuse cases going to court. While the point of a relationship is indeed to enjoy the company of another human, That doesn't mean this can't go wrong. We see it go wrong every single day in domestic violence, Murders; etc. . . None of these cases are beneficial to the human race. Love does not need to be perfect, But it does need to keep all people in the relationship from harm. That is the bare minimum for a relationship. You stating love should be perfect always, Doesn't mean it is perfect always.

The single relationship type where one member of the relationship will always be in danger, Always be abused, And always be mistreated is a paedophilic one. It is inherently evil. You have stated time and time again that relationships should be about love, Yet you haven't provided a single argument why a romantic and/or sexual relationship between an adult and a child is love. Meanwhile, I have provided several on why this relationship type is instead about abuse.

"Clearly your understanding of reality is blurred and you need an education, " - I wonder if it's my understanding of reality that's blurred, And not the one of the person who argues that children don't exist, Consent doesn't exist, And abuse doesn't exist. To be so separated from reality is harmful, And is a result of paedophiles thinking they deserve a community to be normalised in. It is radicalisation, And it's dangerous.

" But anyone would know that love is not bound by age which never existed, But the love between two people no matter what their sexualities are, That can never be bound by numbers or conservative ideology aka freedom of expression which is A human right. So Pedosexuality would therefore be a protected group and what you are promoting is that it is ok to violate the human rights of humanity when their existence contradicts conservative ideology. Which ia discrimination and a form of degradation. Both of which is highly wrong amd anti human. " I'll ignore the glaring typo's. Age does exist, And it indicates an individuals stage of development. You talk about violating the human rights. Allow me to remind you that children are humans with rights. Children even have an entirely different set of rights, Made because they need to be protected. Paedophiles will never be a protected group, Unless they stop abusing children. And seeing as this abuse is in their very nature, It is impossible for their actions to be justified.

"The only abusers are conservatives like yourself" - I'm a socialist, Cheers, You know absolutely nothing about me, I advise you stop assuming.

"I respect you as a human being bit your logic and ideology is corrupted at best. Because you see the LGBTP+ community as lab rats to be defined by corrupted conservative studies, Yet you won't recognize us as human beings. Therefore, I speak the truth, That conservatives and not Pedosexuals are the problem, Because it is a proven fact that conservatives have caused nothing but mayham and hostilities against the LGBTP+ community, None of which is justified, And is also qualified as a hate crime by the NAACP. Thank you. " There is no LGBTP community. As an actual member of the LGBT community, I can assure you, There is not a single non-paedophile member of our community that wishes to welcome paedophiles. I recognise you as a human being. I recognise you as a human being who abuses children. That is a crime, Qualified by every single legal system in the world.

Lastly, I can assure you, The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, Has never said discrimination against paedophiles is a hate crime. I think they're quite busy fighting for the rights of colored people.

I ask you again, Provide me with a single, Sourced argument on why a relationship between an adult and a child can be healthy. Just a single one. I know you cannot do this, Because arguments for this relationship do not exist. Stop justifying abuse. Thank you.
Debate Round No. 2
minho008

Pro

Again, The LGBTP+ community includes Pedosexuals. So yes they are equal. All human beings are created equal and judging people for their sexuality is wrong. The LGBTP+ community are not murderers so your example is pointless. Both Pedosexuals and gay people are victims and conservatives are the ones who victimize them. They are equally victims of the same source.

Children don't exist. Human beings have equal rights but you conservatives want to censor and ban the rights of others because you lot don't like them. Like how Donald Trump wants to build a wall instead of showing respect to Mexicans. Love is not a form of mistreatment. Your ideology and how you treat Pedosexuals is a form of mistreatment. So you are admitting to persecuting innocent people who you never met, All to protect an outdated ideology that no one cares about. That's low even for conservative standards.

Common sense does not exist. We are all independent and unique in our own way. The fact that you used the word common sense, Shows that you are generalizing humanity instead of respecting our differences. Gay people are attracted to gay people. A gay woman is called a lesbian. So you are clearly incorrect and can't even use proper terminology. Lesbians are attracted to lesbians and straight people are attracted to straight people. That's a fact that can not be denied. Sexuality is the only thing that matters here. Being gay is a sexuality, Being straight is a sexuality, Not a gender.

The truth is outrageous to those who are uneducated of the truth. It is natural to me because I have an education. Age never existed and we are discussing reality, Not corrupted, Outdated, And oppressive conservative laws. Puberty does not exist and has nothing to do with anything that is being discussed here.

Every human being can fend for themselves, And to think that humanity is weak, Is an insult to humanity. Humanity has gender for itself for millions of years. So you are incorrect in that.

The correct term is Pedosexuality or Pedosexuals. The only people who support the LGBTP+ community, Are liberals and the left who actually care about the well-being of humanity. Unlike the hateful conservatives like yourself, Who deny the right of a human being to exist, The left realizes the existence of all sexualities and respects humanities right to freedom of choice. Pedophiles never existed. It is a uneducated term that conservatives use to degrade Pedosexuals. Just like conservatives use multiple terms to insulnt gays. Child abuse never existed and has nothing to do with anything. Love is not a form of abuse. Your lack of respect for the LGBTP+ community is abuse.

The correct term is LGBTP+. How can you be a bisexual and not be able to get the acronym right. I propose that you are lying for effect and sympathy. Which means that you are not a part of the LGBTP+ community. A real member of said community would respect all members of the community without discrimination or bias. You clearly don't care about equal rights.

Consent never existed. You need an education on what love is. The truth is more important than your fake news. This debate is not about a corrupt government practice in our judicial system.

The relationship that is abusive is the relationship between humanity and conservatives. Pedosexuality is a sexuality that is perfectly natural and is in no way an excuse to persecuting Pedosexuals. Love is never abuse but your judgemental attitude is abuse. A relationship between two human beings is love because that is how reality works. People love wiether you like it or not. It's none of your business anyway.

No relationship that is based on love is based on abuse. You are contracting yourself. Pedosexuality is about love only but you conservatives goal is to abuse anyone who is not heterosexual. As history has proven, Conservatives have been known to slander people who are different then them. Like the KKK did with blacks and like what Donald Trump does against immigrants.

Your understanding of reality is blurred at best and you need an education. Stop pinning your personal problems on me. Abuse does exist and you conservatives abuse Pedosexuals and the LGBTP+ community. Everyone deserves a community. Pedosexuals have a home in the LGBTP+ community. You conservatives are just jealous that nobody is paying attention to the outdated fake news that you lot believe in. Which is why you waste your lives bullying people.

Love is not dangerous. What is dangerous is your hatred against those who do love like Pedosexuals and the LGBTP+ community does.

Age never existed. It indicates nothing. It is fake news made up by conservatives in order to divide and concur the human race which will lead humanity into checkmate. Numbers have No control over humanity. We the people control our own destiny and who We love. That is exactly what Pedosexuals do, And are against the freedom that come with being human. Because otherwise you would support human rights and equal opportunities.

Humans are humans with rights, But children and age never existed. Stop contradicting yourself. Everyone has the same rights. Nobody has different rights. What you are promoting is separatism. Where humanity is divided into fractions, And one fraction is better than the other. Like how whites and blacks were segragated and the whites got all the benefits. That is anti human. We are all created equal. The only people who needs protection are the Pedosexuals from conservatives like yourselves. Just like the native Indians needed protection from the white man.

Pedosexuality is a protected group within the LGBTP+ community. Children never existed and love is not abuse. Abuse is in the nature of conservatives not Pedosexuals. In fact if conservatives learned to judge not by the person's sexuality but by their actions and character, We wouldn't have this problem. Life would be a lot more peaceful.

Love is always justified and the love between two human beings can never be censored. You are a conservative. A socialist support the rights of society and believes in providing a service to humanity. Yet you deny the very humanity who you are supposed to be doing a service for. Clearly you are a conservative only.

There is a LGBTP+ community and your ignorance of this reality is shocking and appalling. Gay people exist and are valid just like every other member of the LGBTP+ community. As a transgender woman, I take offense to your denial of my community. Pedosexuals are already welcomed. The LGBTP+ community loves everyone and hates No none. Only a conservative woukd think otherwise.

You can't abuse something that never existed, Love is never a crime no matter how hard you conservatives try to make it so. Censoring the relationships of others is evil at best. What is a crime is your hate speech against innocent people who has done nothing more to love and to be loved. Something that every human being has the right to access. Every legal system isn't conservative like you. In fact most legal systems are for the people, Not for censorship and oppression like you are.

Face it, Love trumps hate everyday. But nobody deserves your hatred. The people have revolted against the conservative oppression machine and the LGBTP+ community has set a precedent that supports the freedom of the people to choose theor own path, Control their own destiny and most importantly, To never have to be forced in the closet ever again. Love trumps hate and your hatred is bias. The world would be better without your conservative hypocrisy and the world would be better if we all learned to love one another. Learn what love is.
aquariumkind

Con

Yet again I'll dissect your argument paragraph by paragraph, Though I don't suppose it'll take a lot of effort, Seeing as you haven't said a single new thing.

"Again, The LGBTP+ community includes Pedosexuals. " - Says who? You? Says you? Find me a single non-paedophile who says this.

" So yes they are equal. " - This comparison makes no sense seeing as the last sentence is based on absolutely nothing.

"All human beings are created equal and judging people for their sexuality is wrong. " - We aren't judging you for your sexuality, We are judging you because you actively support child abuse.

"The LGBTP+ community are not murderers so your example is pointless. " You saying this clearly means you didn't read what I said. Go back and read it again.

"Children don't exist. " - Again, Where is your source?

"Human beings have equal rights but you conservatives want to censor and ban the rights of others because you lot don't like them. " - Children have equal rights but you paedophiles want to abuse and mistreat them because you like them too much.

" Like how Donald Trump wants to build a wall instead of showing respect to Mexicans. " Donald Trump not liking my race has absolutely nothing to do with paedophiles abusing children thank you very much.

"Love is not a form of mistreatment. " - Child abuse is not a form of love.

"So you are admitting to persecuting innocent people who you never met, All to protect an outdated ideology that no one cares about. " You are admitting to persecuting innocent children, All to protect your own sex life.

"Common sense does not exist. We are all independent and unique in our own way. The fact that you used the word common sense, Shows that you are generalizing humanity instead of respecting our differences. " While it seems a bit desperate to be getting into semantics now, Common sense absolutely does exist. When I say not murdering anyone is common sense, I am referring to the moral compass humans have. Same thing goes for when I say 'not abusing children is common sense'

"Gay people are attracted to gay people. A gay woman is called a lesbian. So you are clearly incorrect and can't even use proper terminology. Lesbians are attracted to lesbians and straight people are attracted to straight people. That's a fact that can not be denied. Sexuality is the only thing that matters here. Being gay is a sexuality, Being straight is a sexuality, Not a gender. " The fact that you are defending this argument even after I've blatantly disproved it is baffling. First of all, Both gay woman and lesbian are correct terms. Second, And I cannot believe I'm repeating this: the sentence "straight people are attracted to straight people" is incorrect. Straight men are not attracted to other straight men. And so on, For all sexualities.

"The truth is outrageous to those who are uneducated of the truth. It is natural to me because I have an education. Age never existed and we are discussing reality, Not corrupted, Outdated, And oppressive conservative laws. Puberty does not exist and has nothing to do with anything that is being discussed here. " As I am assuming we both live in a developed country, I can testify we both have an education, You are not the sole being in the entire universe to go to school. Puberty does exist. Provide me with a single source that says it doesn't. I know for a fact you can't.

"Every human being can fend for themselves, And to think that humanity is weak, Is an insult to humanity. Humanity has gender for itself for millions of years. So you are incorrect in that. " Children cannot fend for themselves. They can't work, They can't think rationally, They can't defend themselves against stronger and smarter adults. Humanity is only weak when it condemns the growing/less fortunate to mistreatment, Which is what you advocate for.

"The correct term is Pedosexuality or Pedosexuals. The only people who support the LGBTP+ community, Are liberals and the left who actually care about the well-being of humanity. Unlike the hateful conservatives like yourself, Who deny the right of a human being to exist, The left realizes the existence of all sexualities and respects humanities right to freedom of choice. " To define everyone who doesn't support your sick ways as conservative just further proves how out of touch with reality you are. Ask any rightwinger if they'd like to be shoved into the same box as me, A socialist, And I can assure you they'd be quite angry.

"Child abuse never existed and has nothing to do with anything. Love is not a form of abuse. Your lack of respect for the LGBTP+ community is abuse. " If child abuse didn't exist, There would be no court cases against it, Of which there are in fact thousands. You state love is not a form of abuse, And it isn't, But you forget paedophilia is not a form of love.

"Your lack of respect for the LGBTP+ community is abuse. " I fully, Wholeheartedly, Completely, Absolutely respect the lesbians, Gays, Trans people; etc. . In my community. I don't respect the paedophiles that aren't a part of it. Not because I don't like them as humans, But because they are criminals and child abusers.

"You clearly don't care about equal rights. " Says the child abuser.

"Consent never existed. " Source? Yet again, I state, If consent didn't exist, There wouldn't be court cases for rape and abuse.

"Pedosexuality is a sexuality that is perfectly natural and is in no way an excuse to persecuting Pedosexuals. " -Except for the fact they abuse children.

"No relationship that is based on love is based on abuse. " -A paedophilic relationship isn't based on love.

"Pedosexuality is about love only but you conservatives goal is to abuse anyone who is not heterosexual. " -My goal is mostly to stop anyone who wishes to abuse children.

"Like the KKK did with blacks and like what Donald Trump does against immigrants. " -And like paedophiles do with children.

"Abuse does exist and you conservatives abuse Pedosexuals and the LGBTP+ community. " -Who's contradicting themselves now?

"Everyone deserves a community. " And I have just the community for paedophiles! It's called prison, That's where criminals go.

"Love is not dangerous. What is dangerous is your hatred against those who do love like Pedosexuals and the LGBTP+ community does. " Love may not be dangerous, But paedophilia isn't love. It's mistreatment of children.

"Because otherwise you would support human rights and equal opportunities. " I support a child's right to not be abused. I advocate for all children to have the equal opportunity of not being abused.

"Pedosexuality is a protected group within the LGBTP+ community. " Source?
"Children never existed " - Source?

"You are a conservative. A socialist support the rights of society and believes in providing a service to humanity. " A socialist mostly believes in big government, Taxing the rich, And healthcare, But guess what we also believe in? Not abusing children.

"There is a LGBTP+ community and your ignorance of this reality is shocking and appalling. Gay people exist and are valid just like every other member of the LGBTP+ community. As a transgender woman, I take offense to your denial of my community. Pedosexuals are already welcomed. The LGBTP+ community loves everyone and hates No none. Only a conservative woukd think otherwise. " - Allow me to ring every single one of my mates, I can assure you none of them support child abuse.

It seems to me you have no rational arguments left, And now just keep repeating yourself. You haven't told me anything new from the past two rounds. I cannot take you seriously when you keep bringing up the same points I've already disproved. For the next round, Provide me a source for:
1. Children don't exist
2. Age doesn't exist
3. Consent doesn't exist
4. Paedophiles are part of the LGBT community
5. Everyone who doesn't support paedophiles is a conservative.
Seeing as you are so keen on repeating these ridiculous statements over and over and over again.
Debate Round No. 3
minho008

Pro

I am focused on the topic at hand and you can't seem to understand reality so your insults are moot.
The LGBTP+ community says everyone with a brain. Which clearly you conservatives don't have because you only have respect for hetrosexuals.

Everyone who is not Pedosexual says this except for conservatives like yourself. Pedophiles don't even exist. The fact that you use the wrong terminology and you have no knowledge of how the LGBTP+ community actually works, Shows how uneducated you are. An educated person shows all people equal respect.

Equality is based on how the human race actually exist. It is based on a life where conservatives like you have no right to bully and harass people for their sexuality. Stop calling equality and human rights "nothing".

You just admitted to judging people for their sexuality. Child abuse never existed and your fake news will not cover up the evil monstrosities that you conservatives have inflicted on the LGBTP+ community. And the fact that you lie about judging people when that is the only thing that you are doing in this debate is closed minded at best.

I read what you said, Which is why I am able to respond. You are comparing the LGBTP+ community to murderers. Maybe you should rewrite what you wrote and think before you type.

Children never existed and reality is my source. Because the reality is, Numbers do not control our lives and we are not slaves to numbers.
Children never existed. Stop repeating nonsense. Human beings have rights but you conservatives want to alienate and discriminate against people for their sexuality. Slandering them by making humanity seem stupid and by creating a delusional fantasy, Where love and sex is wrong because people aren't doing it in a way that you want. But guess what. Nobody has to be like you and nobody has to suffer from you conservatives forcing your ideology down their mouths. This is not a dictatorship. This is a democracy.

Love is not a form of abuse and liking someone is not abuse. Your hatred and judgement of those who are LGBTP+ is abuse.

Donald Trump hating Mexicans had everything to do with Pedosexuality. Donald Trump like all conservatives hate those who are not like him, Does not believe what he believes in, And who lives a life that he does not understand. Just like you are doing against the LGBTP+ community. Stop hating the things that you do not understand, And start giving things a chance with an open mind.

Love is not a form of abuse and a "child" never existed. Human beings have the right to love whoever they want to. Just like blacks have the right to love and marry white people. Which you conservatives are also against.

Children never existed and Pedosexuals are innocent. So you are trying to protect a corrupted ideology that for thousands of years have destroyed civilizations and even lead to the Holocaust. Your hatred against Pedosexuals is the same hatred that Hitler had against the Jews. Hatred on all levels is wrong and those who hate Pedosexuals are as evil and wicked as Hitler.

Common sense never existed. We are human beings and we have an independent mindset. Life is not a cult. Morals never existed. Human beings have intelligence and wisdom. But that is in no way a mechanism to be manipulated with by conservatives in order to destroy the diversity that exist in humanity. Nothing is common sense because there is nothing common about our individualized, Diverse, And multicultural society.

Fake news is not a legitimate form of proof. Gay women are called lesbians not gay woman. Lesbian is the correct term. Straight people are attracted to straight people. It happens in life everyday. Bill Clinton, A straight person, Is attracted to Hillary Clinton, Who is also a straight person. Jimmy Swaggart a straight person is attracted to Francis Swaggart who is also a straight person. So you are incorrect, Not me.

Gay people are attracted to other gay people and lesbians are attracted to lesbians. Why is that so hard for you conservatives to understand.

Every country is a developed country and that has nothing to do with anything. Many people do have an education. I however am the only one debating you here, So naturally I would talk about myself and not the entire planet.

Puberty never existed so it is impossible for it to exist. So by saying that something that never existed exist, Shows how uneducated you are because you are contradicting yourself. Life, Fact, Truth and reality is the source and is the most powerful source in the universe. It is even more powerful than your conservative based fake news.

Children never existed and humanity can defend itself. Palestine defends itself against Israel and the West everyday. The Jews defender themselves against the oppressive Nazis during the time of the Holocaust. The black community defended themselves against its white oppressors, And the Mexicans defend themselves against Trump, ICE, Racist and conservatives everyday as well as the threat of deportation and the separation of the family.

Humanity has defended itself against the corruption of Nixon, The bombing of Libia, The Invasion of Iraq and Pakistan, The Vienam, Korean, And Persian war, Etc. Some would say that America is stronger and smarter than almost every country, Yet we defend ourselves against the capitalist dictatorship that American conservatives invade our society with. So you are wrong in your logic.

Yes you conservatives do mistreat humanity on a daily bases. And yes I advocate for an end to the oppressive conservative regime which threatens the destruction of humanity by denying humanity the right to life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness which includes Pedosexuals and the LGBTP+ community. There is nothing wrong with that.

Yes you conservatives are out of touch with reality and yes I my conservatives think that hatred is justified against another human being. Love is not "sick", But your judgement against those who do love is perverted. Every rightwing nut job is on the same box as you. Just look at fox news. The only people who are angry about positive change, Are conservatives. Which is why conservatives also hate the bill of rights.

The court system is corrupted and blinded by corruption and conservative fake news. That's not an argument. Just because Donald Trump says that Mexicans are bad hombres does not make it true. Just because white supremacist call black people bad words does not make black people bad.

Pedophilia never existed and Pedosexuality is a form of love. Just like homosexuality and the lot. You have no respect for anything other than your conservative ideology and fake news. You are selfish. Because otherwise, You would have said" I have respect for the LGBTP+ community" with no if and or but. Again pedophilia never existed and nobody is a criminal for not having the same sexuality as them or because of your lack of knowledge of said sexuality. You are abusing Pedosexuals and humanity on a daily bases when you find lame excuses to hate people and then try to cover it up. The truth comes out always.

You clearly don't care about equal rights. Making up words like "child abusers" is ignorant and uneducated even for you. I would respect you more if you just said that you were anti equality. Which your belief system is evidence of that.
Courts are corrupted alongside the white house and the executive branch so that is not an argument. If anything, We the people who have to suffer the persecution of a corrupt conservative judicial branch is the real issue. Not those who cause said corruption. Pedosexuals don't abuse anyone. You conservatives abuse Pedosexuals. A Pedosexual relationship is based on love. However a conservative relationship is not.
Your goals are corrupted and needs fixing. It is also anti human. Children never existed and mocking the suffering of humanity is wrong. You are contradicting yourself. Prison is not a community. Get an education. Child rights don't exist.
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Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by Chtholly 2 years ago
Chtholly
So, I didn't know what the hell "Pedosexual" meant, Until i read the first line in @Aquariumkind 's argument. Why the hell would you think it's ok? There is not a way for it to be ok, And there will never be a time when it's ok to do such a thing. . .
Posted by Yoshikage69Kira 2 years ago
Yoshikage69Kira
Children can't give consent. If you want to do a kid then you are raping them.
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