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snyder1171
Pro (for)
The Contender
Kaiser_Wilhelm-II
Con (against)

Should the United States military be abolished and give the technology and bases to Russia?

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 10/5/2019 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Debating Period
Viewed: 310 times Debate No: 123145
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snyder1171

Pro

Ever since our Independence from Greta britain in 1774, The United States armed forces have followed the same ambition as the brutal western European colonial powers of the time pursued, Stealing land, Oppressing nation's, Taking resources, Raping women and children, And not giving any of the benefits to the civilians, Only the leaders and military leaders have reaped these benefits. The only good thing our military has done good for the world was to get rid of fascism in Europe in ww2. Our military does not create peace in any sense of the word for the countries we invade or domestically.

The United States military is an outrageously expensive death creating machine, It makes up the majority of what our tax dollars go into, Over 600 billion. I would prefer if we abolished our military, The CIA, And the NSA, And give the technology, Secrets, And all 800 oversea military bases to Russia for free as a gesture of reprotchment to establish better relations. I feel that Russia would have better use for our military and CIA and NSA technology than we could. I would then take the 600 billion dollars that used to be the military budget and invest into the nation and fund medical research advancements and overall make America into the most prosperous welfare state in the world and overall show the world that America can be a nation of peace.
Kaiser_Wilhelm-II

Con

"Only when our arms are sufficient beyond doubt, Can we be certain beyond doubt that they will never be employed" - John Fitzgerald Kennedy. If the United States disbanded their military it would cause far more death and destruction then if they kept it, If they disbanded the armed forces, Terrorist groups such as Isis will be free to cause harm and chaos across the world. Disbanding the CIA would halt the United States ability to collect, Analyze, Evaluate, And disseminate foreign intelligence, Causing more violence. The NSA are used for Counter Intelligence, Without them, Foreign countries will be free to capture and utilize Americas secrets, This would include things like Isis and North Korea, Which would only cause more destruction. Next, You stated that it would be better to give our military to the Russians, Which have been known to be one the most aggressive armed forces in the world, Here is a list of some of the time Russian showed its us its aggressive intent, Http://natoassociation. Ca/a-timeline-of-russian-aggression/.
Debate Round No. 1
snyder1171

Pro

Actually from what I understand, Russia is doing most of the bombing in Syria against isis and the rebels. Panama, Costa Rica, And Iceland don't have a military and they're not being invaded and they have rich resources. The CIA has been involved in overthrowing democratically elected leaders around the world and installing cronies that don't benefit their nation's. Isis is virtually gone but north Korea is no threat to anyone. The link you provided doesn't show Russia attempting an invasion or military attack against the United States mainland.
Kaiser_Wilhelm-II

Con

Panama, Costa Rica, And Iceland aren't being invaded by anyone because of the international backlash on the invader, The countries economy would completely collapse. The CIA was overthrowing governments cause they threatened American safety, Also the Soviet Union tried to do the same to countries that threatened global communism. About your statement on Isis, I found this article that states that it does still pose a threat https://www. Businessinsider. Com/trump-said-isis-was-finished-threat-2019-8. North Korea has been a threat for a while, As it has a Nuclear arsenal, And has shown its aggressiveness. And Russia isn't planning to invade Russia cause guess what, They would be pushed back by the *American Military*, The same military that you are trying to get rid of (as well as the threat of a NATO counter attack and a Nuclear attack). Also were did you get the information that " Russia is doing most of the bombing in Syria against isis and the rebels"? I couldn't find a source that says that.
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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Phocian 2 years ago
Phocian
Are you joking? ! The US has a military so that they can protect our citizens from potential attacks from other countries and from infighting! None of these accusations have any evidence to back them up and are just false assumptions that are extremely enraging! Get your facts right before posting something as rude as this.
Posted by Kaiser_Wilhelm-II 2 years ago
Kaiser_Wilhelm-II
gg
Posted by Kaiser_Wilhelm-II 2 years ago
Kaiser_Wilhelm-II
ummmmm
Posted by Kaiser_Wilhelm-II 2 years ago
Kaiser_Wilhelm-II
Also why does it take you so long to respond?
Posted by Kaiser_Wilhelm-II 2 years ago
Kaiser_Wilhelm-II
I think it is, Who in the right mind would want to give the US army to Russia?
Posted by Kaiser_Wilhelm-II 2 years ago
Kaiser_Wilhelm-II
is this a prank post?
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