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The god of the bible and the problem of evil and hate especially among children with their suffering

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Started: 2/25/2020 Category: Education
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Challenge Period
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backwardseden

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Before this debate gets started here's a video on the evil of god in which is *highly* recommended that you watch, Take in and comprehend. If you don't, It's YOUR loss and chances are very good that you will not be able to properly argue this debate.
http://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=Z1BzP1wr234&t=5s%20How - How god Favors Evil
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https://www. Bbc. Co. Uk/religion/religions/atheism/beliefs/reasons_1. Shtml
The problem of evil
The Argument from Evil
The existence of evil seems inconsistent with the existence of a God who is wholly good, And can do anything.

The argument goes like this:

Most religions say that God is completely good, Knows everything, And is all-powerful. But the world is full of wickedness and bad things keep happening. This can only happen if. . .

* God is unwilling to prevent evil, In which case he is not good or
* God doesn't know about evil, In which case he does not know everything or
* God can't prevent evil, In which case he is not all powerful or
* Some combination of the above
And so there is no being that is completely good, Knows everything, And is all powerful. And so, There is no God.

Theologians and philosophers have provided various answers to this argument. They all agree that it gives useful insights into the nature of God, Evil, And belief.
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Now let's give you an example of this unproven character storybook god of print only pure evil by thinking, Rationalizing, Reasoning, Using common sense, And using logic and the suffering of children.
https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=2zYG_fJLjBg - god hates children
https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=5kQTIX7NRE4 - Atheist debates get em while they"re young
Btw, YOUR god put children in that position of suffering to begin with which is 100% pure evil and hate. YOUR god absolutely loves to knowingly suffer, Otherwise it would not create their situations for them to suffer.

And btw, I know that you know that you cannot contemplate suffering at all. Your precious jesus in which case you cannot prove has ever existed went through 14 hours, Tops, Of suffering. Some children go through decades of suffering. Your precious unproven who may have or may have not existed jesus, Regardless, Was not the messiah at any rate according to the bible, Had it easy.

Now please do tell me what a child can possibly learn from suffering? Much less an adult? If you"ve answered "nothing", You"ve answered correctly.
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Here"s another example of god"s pure evil and hate"
Your unproven storybook character god of print only knowingly creates children to be raped, Beaten and tortured at the hands of their abusers. . . Sometimes for decades. An example is daddy is sticking in his you know what inside of his daughter age 5 while punching her in the face twice per week for 15 years. To knowingly create children to suffer is 100% pure evil and hate at its finest. You can not get more evil than that with all the hate if you wanted to. Please DO NOT bring in the "Free Will" argument either because children DO NOT have the Free Will to escape from these monsters who commit these horrific acts. AND YOUR unproven god knowingly creates these children to deliberately suffer as well as these monsters to commit their unspeakable crimes to begin with. AND it gets better because each and every single time this supposed unproven storybook character god of print only MUST give "power" to the psychopath/ evildoer/ devil/ sociopath/ criminal/ lawbreaker or whatever you wish to call him or her, To commit his or her crimes that are sometimes heinous and appalling for first time events and sometimes many times more events after that, No exceptions, None while the victim inevitably always suffers from the events sometimes being sometimes sickening and detestable.
The abrahamic unproven god must also love it, Otherwise it would create these horrific events. Please DO NOT invent the excuse that "its not god's fault". Well yeah, It is. Otherwise, The unproven storybook character god of print only is NOT in control of everything, Nor is it all knowing, Nor is it all powerful, Nor is it omnipotent. Nor does it care enough to not create these horrific acts. And the worst of the absolute worst is your unproven god is giving greater value, A greater meaning to these monsters to commit these horrific acts while these children suffer at the hands of these savages who have no free will to SCREAM. The unproven character storybook god of print only IS hate and evil. Pure and simple. So invent better excuses please. Sure, Call me that I "hate" when it was just proven that YOUR god hates and nothing but. AND GOD MUST HAVE GIVEN THAT HATE TO ME AND ALL OF MANKIND. And yes, Absolutely 100% that includes YOU by gum! Wow. What a loving god huh? Pathetic, But typical smug christian ideal that doesn't work - ever - excuse on your part.
In other words, God truly hates children which is a truly "duh "situation. The bible proves this time and time again with verse after verse. Would you like a list of these verses? Also, Notice how children do not get to say but perhaps 4 sentences in the bible? That"s it. Wow. It's like having your mouth glued shut for your entire childhood. That's the worst form of child abuse there is - to be neglected and ignored. And the bible does it so well. Sure god and jesus have stated that they love children or whatever, But that's not the same thing. Not by a longshot. How would you like it if someone spoke for you for your entire childhood and you could not say a single word on your behalf? Well, You'd naturally hate it. Also, The bible is surely incomplete because there are no voices of children, There are no children talking or singing, Or voices of them playing, When it is most assuredly required. How would you like it if you as an adult, Worked so hard for your children, As well you should, And they should always be the center of your life, Were to find out that they were left out of your life? Well, Once again you'd naturally hate it. And that's exactly what the bible and god have done in leaving children completely out of "their" most supposed sacred book of history that is supposed to engulf everything that was known within their supposed surroundings up until that special moment in time, And yet it completely ignores and neglects children. Well, Good job for the men who wrote the bible. Not---too---bright.

So prove one god damned reason why ---anyone--- should believe in the unproven storybook character god of print only bible. Btw, Canceling out "evil" and stating god is "love" doesn"t work, Not ever as a cheapened coughed up miserable excuse.
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Posted by WisdomOfAges 1 year ago
WisdomOfAges
SADLY. . . There is NOT a large viewership on this FORM / PLATFORM. . . Mostly because the humans behind
the platform DELIBERATELY shut down the OPEN MINDED arguments. . . Which leaves a very small and
mostly "STUPID" weak minded humans to respond to these POSTS-DEBATES. . . Etc. . .

Your points are indeed VALID and worthy of argument. . . There is no one with the INTELLIGENCE and CAPACITY to DEBATE. . Those who are WORTHY agree with your perspective. . .

It's just a perspective and NOT ABSOLUTE. . . But worthy of consideration and agreement in the CONTEXT
of what the MAJORITY of ABRAHAMIC GOD INFESTED BRAINS actuall do to themselves and other humans. . . Especially to those who could care less about their PUPPET GOD TOY invention and the
horrifically OBSOLETE and OPPRESSIVE Comic BOOK VOMIT and DOGMAS these parasite LIARS atttach
to their invisible PUPPET GOD TOY hoax. . . . Disgusting. . . . And absolutely. . The DEATH of the "OPEN MIND"
Posted by backwardseden 1 year ago
backwardseden
This is precisely why people like @mall cannot conceptualize within their brains that christianity IS, Is a religion based on no provable evidence to prove any god but is a "belief". That's what a religion is. A "belief". And wow is it so ridiculously easy to prove the headliner post "The god of the bible and the problem of evil and hate especially among children with their suffering" backed up by tons of evidence.
Posted by mall 1 year ago
mall
Tips for those that accept this challenge, The main key to use to invalidate all of this, Is that religion and evidence are not one in the same.
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