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The god of the bible does not exist

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Started: 1/23/2020 Category: Religion
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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backwardseden

Pro

Rules:
Prove that the unproven god of the bible exists. . .

1. Prove that there is only one creator/ god.
2. Test, Demonstrate and assert this unproven god of the bible exists.
3. No so-called scientific methodology and terminology will be allowed since the bible did not present any scientific evidence to prove its god's existence.
4. Use chapters and verses only please using either the KJV, NIV, NLT translations/ versions only to prove its supposed unproven god's existence.

5. For extra credit, Prove that any god from any religion has ever existed.

6. Dsjpk5 is disqualified from the voting procedures as he tries to pretend he's god and thus change the voting structure of who wins and loses here on DDO.
Silly08

Con

1. Ok well how else would the world come to the place as we know it. 2. Ok then why is the bible the best selling book if it does not exist and there is no author. Its not like this random guy who met on the street wrote the holy bible. 3. Its cause god lives beyond the galaxy and scientists can't study beyond the milky way 4. What do you mean. 5. Maybe you should start praying
Debate Round No. 1
backwardseden

Pro

Typical. You've got to be a teeny bopper, Completely brainwashed and can only think in one dimension and cannot possibly think outside of his/ her teeny weely little tinker toy box. You did not follow the rules as was a prerequisite substandard as bided by what was stated in the previous RD. So are you willing to concede this debate because you cannot answer the questions/ statements as was thus given unto you and you cannot follow them? Y____? N____?
Silly08

Con

I am definitely not a teeny blooper. Second who said i had to follow your crazy rules. And i will never concede now prove that god does not exist
Debate Round No. 2
backwardseden

Pro

This is my debate. It's not yours. I make the rules. Either you follow them or you leave. You really think I'm going to change the rules of MY debate and follow YOUR idiotic rules that are so moronic and poorly thought out that your pet flatfish rubber ducky could answer with a strike of a match on your you know where areas because YOU wear sandpaper? Why do you think I create MY debates? Are you really THAT stupid? I guess YOU are. And of course you are a teeny bopper. Try flatly lying to someone else.
Silly08

Con

god so does exist just look at the 10 commandments and there is only one again the 10 commandments. 2nd i will not follow your crazy rules. I=and i think the only teeny bopper is you. I am not lying you just made your crazy rules inpossible. Even if i did you would probably say that im breaking the rules because you don't live in reality.
Debate Round No. 3
backwardseden

Pro

Since you cannot follow simpleton rules that have been set before you, Which means that you cannot prove YOUR unproven storybook character god of print only exists because you MUST expect a character to leap off of some page and go POOF "I'm here, Worship me" with all the terror that YOUR bible represents, In which case no idiot god would be stupid enough, Not for any reason, Not ever, To use text, Namely your bible, As a form of communication, Advertisement, Correspondence, Easily the worst form of communication, Advertisement, Correspondence possible for a god from any religion, You have willfully, Rightly, Justly and destructively forfeited this debate.
A helpful hint teeny bopper. . . Next time you enter a debate with someone who is clearly a lot more intelligent and edumacated than you are, In which case I clearly am in comparison to you, Please bring in some actual evidence that supports your case and follow some simpleton rules that are set before you, That is if they exist. If you cannot do these things, You have no business entering a debate because this will only show not only what a pompous a$$ you are but how truly ignorant you are as well as uneducated and unintelligent you are.

Now do you REALLY want to be humiliated, Degraded and destroyed with the idiotic 10 commandments? OK let's have some fun because you are so completely uneducated and ignorant. . .
Well first off, Which version? Moses revised the 10 commandments 4 fricken times you know. Duh.
Here's a video from a true expert on the subject to help you out and will give you some REAL 10 commandments, Commandments that have meaning and depth and are not true travesties that are not jokes unto themselves clearly thought up BY HUMANS and in no possible way by an unproven storybook character god of print only.
https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=v-63cTYJDCA - Christopher Hitchens's Ten Commandments
So let"s move on. . .
Thankfully this nation was NOT founded under god who is 100% pure evil. Proof of that can be found under the 10 commandments.
Here's an absolute prime example of how anyone can outthink an idiot that wrote them because a true god with a less than a 3rd grade education didn"t. All of the 10 commandments are negative and prohibiting when they should be uplifting if anything. What true downers they all are. Oh and yeah, I CAN and have done a list on some commandments that are pretty damn good that are uplifting. They are NOT DOWNERS. Everybody, Including you, Yes that's right YOU can come up with a better list than what the bible lists. This is preschool stuff. There's also no way a supreme deity of intelligence or integrity would ever put into play The 10 Commandments in which 8 of them this country, The U. S. Violates and a true supreme deity can not expect anyone to follow all of them to the letter in the first place. . .
*shall not kill - god kills and violates his own commandment as god kills and murders all the time. (Hey god is responsible for the biggest genocide of all time with the great flood as he obliterated every living thing except for 2 of each species and Noah and his family which would have had to have been incalculable quadrillions. He also murdered innocent 6 month olds breast feeding and god would have had to have committed countless abortions to boot. Now talk about animal abuse. That is animal abuse at its finest. Wow! This is 100% hypocritical. Also, The U. S. Killed and kills millions in foreign countries and here on U. S. Soil. So killing and murder is just fine according to god.
*no other gods before me - violates the religious freedom of choice (regardless if god is a supreme deity, He wouldn"t care which only points out to his shallow ego)
*shall not make for yourself a graven image - violates the freedom of expression/choice (once again, If god were a supreme deity, He wouldn"t care and absolutely points out to his frail ego)
*take the name of the lord your god in vain - violates the freedom of speech (again, God wouldn"t care that is IF god is god in which he clearly isn"t and would be able to shrug this off with ease and MOVE ON, Very childish)
* not make unto thee any graven image - violates the freedom of speech (again, God wouldn"t care, Very childish as he lights his roman candle twiddle boxes)
*remember the sabbath day, To keep it holy - violates the freedom of religion, Choice, And expression (um nope, God wouldn"t care)
Exodus 31:13-15 "Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, Saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you. 14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, That soul shall be cut off from among his people. 15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, Holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, He shall surely be put to death. " And how many violate it and are NOT put to death? Regardless, A bit harsh, Horrifying and truly silly don't you think? And there's no way that it can possibly be put into place, Especially into today's modern era. I mean how shocking do you have to be?
*honor your father and your mother - ha ha ha - Wow. Have you seen some of the parents out there who abuse their kids and or are terrible parents and or should never be parents? So this only appeals to those that are good parents or better.
Exodus 21: 17 "And he that curseth his father, Or his mother, Shall surely be put to death. " Um absolutely not. Not if your mother and father abuse you. Not if they rape and torture you. Then indeed its the absolute reverse. Then if anything its the mother and father that shall surely be put to death. That's a gimme.
** Leviticus 20:9 "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. "
** Mark 7:10 "For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, Let him die the death:"
**Matthew 15:4 "For God commanded, Saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, Let him die the death. "
*shall not commit adultery - violates the freedom of choice. Or if the other supposed "violator doesn"t let the other person know that he or she is committing adultery and or if the person does not know if the person he or she is sleeping with is committing adultery, What then? Also yet again its punishable by death. Wow such a stupid commandment.
*Leviticus 20:10 "And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, Even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, The adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. "
*shall not covet your neighbor"s? Well, Violates the freedom of choice
* shall not steal That"s awfully vague. Shall not steal what? One sip of water? One tiny bite of meat? A nuclear bomb from Iran or N. Korea or wherever to save the world from a holocaust?
Once the 10 commandments are rightfully reset due to a thoughtful process which never happened to begin with, Obviously, And who knows how many commandments will be needed, In their place it is required to have a commandment which states something to the effect of "thou shall not rape, Beat, Torture, Nor cause harm to children. " In reality, There's no way that the 10 commandments are righteous and just with leaving that one out and thus leaving god's ridiculous blubbering ego in. That"s a duh situation.

See how stupid these 10 commandments just---don"t---work? 9 commandments out of 10 = kablooey! Well at least here in this country. Hey god you hair brained maggot, Lose the bloated ego. Let us all band together and permanently get rid of those ridiculous commandments that trumpet his bloated ego. They are not needed for any reason and they are absurd indeed.
Are there any commandments that are geared towards children? No there are none. There should be, Obviously. That is a gross violation and it is truly shameful especially when their voices and cries need to be heard and not shut down. Children throughout the bible do not get to say nor voice one single sentence in the bible which is the worst form of child abuse there is as they are neglected and ignored.
However there are 4 commandments out of the 10 commandments covering god"s bloated fragile frail superior ego. Now why is that? What is god afraid of that he requires 4 out of 10? I"ll tell you what he is afraid of" He is afraid of losing his grip, Power, And control that he has with his supposed chosen people. So what does this god character do? He applies fear through his commandments. And fear controls. Its that simple. In no way could these 10 commandments ever ever ever ever ever and let's say - ever - again be implied to today"s intelligent and educated congregations from around the world if they were written today ----- unless they are for those that are far too gullible and seeking an explanation for the unexplained, Just like you. So obviously, The 10 commandments weigh in with precious little credibility and with no integrity that isn"t contradictory and hypocritical that "thou shall not kill" is. None. So please do not invent the excuse that I am taking verses from your bible out of context. K? When in fact you can not read your simpleton bible at all - ever - for what they are now can you? That"s an "absolutely not" answer on all levels.
Man can and will do and has done for 265, 000 years just fine without god. God cannot do without man. Now would you like me to continue? I haven"t even gotten started. But gosh golly gee, This debate has come to a close because of you breaking the rules and you not knowing AT ALL what in the flying pregnant fetus screw you are squawking about. So it's ta ta. My my was that fun.
Silly08

Con

god is just changing the rules and if you don't belive in god then when you die you will be in a bad place and u will beg me to bail you out but i won't
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by backwardseden 2 years ago
backwardseden
@risenphoenix - You've got to be someone who is totally incapable of thinking, Rationalizing, Reasoning, Using common sense at all, Most certainly is incapable of using any type of logic. Because if you could, WHO CARES where the B. O. P. Lands in the lap of the prey? Just because YOU cannot prove that YOUR unproven storybook character god of print only does not exist, That's not my problem, That's entirely YOURS. D---U---H. That's because no one has in the entire existence of the human race which includes ALL RELIGIONS for ---any--- god. So the B. O. P. Is ---always--- on the believer. No exceptions, None. Also, Why would ---any--- blithering idiot atheist ---ever--- want to and or wish to prove ---any--- god, Especially the idiot p**sed upon christian (in which case there is no such thing as christianity which the bumbling babbling baby brained big black bible itself proves oh so very well) terrorist unproven storybook character god of print only which would be counterproductive which is like comparing shards to oatmeal? Atheists have lives of individuality you know. Supposed christians are bound by that extra special toxic meow at the moon horror storybook, In which case they do whatever they want with it, To this ever be so glib and along with their gutter smile of tuff turf talk but it never gets them anywhere except for violence. Ever notice that?
Posted by risenphoenix 2 years ago
risenphoenix
I was considering taking this debate. I should point out though that you are shifting burden of proof. Anyone with debate experience will point this out in the first round. You, As PRO, Bear bop. You would do well to switch the prompt to "The Biblical God exists" and switch over to CON. Then you would be in the position to demand argument from your opponent.
Posted by backwardseden 2 years ago
backwardseden
@jackgilbert = That's a very good kestion? I have no idea. But I will tell you this. . . I hope it's a damn good one and that it's not a dullard like it was last year and am super glad that there's some new blood there and that it's NOT THE PATS. I do think that nerves are going to take place for both teams at the start and who knows what will happen during those moments? The spread is S. F. VS K. C -1. That's as close as close can ever get.
Posted by jackgilbert 2 years ago
jackgilbert
who wins the superbowl?
Posted by Ghost_Of_David 2 years ago
Ghost_Of_David
I feel like me writing this only to get a response from you in 12 hours is too long of a discussion to have with just typing. This is literally something that one should talk about in person.
Posted by backwardseden 2 years ago
backwardseden
@Yoshikage69Kira - Actually there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that a god/ creator exists. None. There never has been in the entire existence of the human race. That doesn't mean one, Thousands, Millions, Billions, Quadrillions do not exist. But here's the thing. . . How does anyone define what a god is considering that no one has ever met up with one? AND no god has defined what it is in ---any--- literary work. Also, How does anyone test, Demonstrate and then assert and then declare that ---any--- god even exists? Then once that's all done present your paper to ---any--- scientific community of merit that is not theistic (after all there cannot be any unfair bias) from around the world BEFORE it gets tossed out topsy turvy on its rear end? And then you have to ask yourself "Isn't it better to have evidence BEFORE believing, Rather than having no evidence and then believing? "

"Assume that we have no answer. Then the answer is "I don"t know". The answer isn"t "I can"t think of anything better, Therefore a god did it. ""Matt Dillahunty He's 100% correct.

Believe in yourself. Don't believe in a supposed storybook unproven character god(s) that you know nothing about of text only in which case no idiot god(s) would ever rely on text, Whatever that may be, The bible, Torah, Quran, Book of mormon, Maya codices or whatever as this god(s) IF TRUE would simply talk to you as an example as well as every single man, Woman and child, And also would NOT get off on suffering the way the christian god does, Not in a quadrillion years thus proving it false, AND would not demand that you pray to it first, Commit massive genocides, Loves slavery, Animal sacrifices etc etc etc. These things a true genuine god(s) would not have anything to do with. Get valid evidence first before believing. Thus far with the human race, There's none.
Religion is invented to explain the unexplained. Think about that. From there for nearly all comes power, Then fear and then control.
Posted by Yoshikage69Kira 2 years ago
Yoshikage69Kira
Their isn't any evidence that someone created the universe (triggered the big bang) nor is their any stating that it isn't the case. Just like the idea that we're all in a computer simulation, It's an falsifiable possibility.
Posted by anc2006 2 years ago
anc2006
I mean, As much as I hate backwardseden's debating styles, I have to agree with him in the cores.
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