The Instigator
Yoshikage69Kira
Pro (for)
Tied
0 Points
The Contender
bilc02
Con (against)
Tied
0 Points

We should sterilize people with an IQ score of below 90

Do you like this debate?NoYes+1
Add this debate to Google Add this debate to Delicious Add this debate to FaceBook Add this debate to Digg  
Post Voting Period
The voting period for this debate has ended.
after 0 votes the winner is...
It's a Tie!
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/4/2020 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 893 times Debate No: 123797
Debate Rounds (3)
Comments (32)
Votes (0)

 

Yoshikage69Kira

Pro

Your IQ is mainly determaned by your DNA. And since healthcare and stuff like that have allowed people with low IQs to reproduce, We have effectivly made natuaral selection irrelevant when it come to passing on genes and since bad genetic mutations are more common then good ones we'll need to do something about this.
bilc02

Con

What you are describing here is exactly what happens in dictatorships. Half of the population are below average at eg. Running, So lets paralyse them all. Equally, You are saying that nobody with below average IQ should be able to have children. Besides, You will definitely be sterilised with your brilliant spelling and grammar. Your statist view is essentially the same view that bought Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin to power.
Debate Round No. 1
Yoshikage69Kira

Pro

No my views are nealy ecactly the same as the United States, France and the United Kingdon when they where fighting the Nazis. You clearly don't know the belifes of the allied powers do you? I don't think that the Jews are ruining my nation. I'm just a conserned citizen who just wants the best for my people. :)
bilc02

Con

You're trying to limit people's personal freedom. If you cannot reproduce because of how you were born, That is unfair on them. As I said in the last round, Your spelling isn't exactly worthy of a high IQ (or even an average one). And since when did I say that I agreed with the views of the Allies? What I am saying is that you are trying to limit personal freedom, Which is what conservative and statist people believe in. I'm just a concerned citizen worrying about unfairly treated people.
Debate Round No. 2
Yoshikage69Kira

Pro

I never said that you agreed with the allies belifes, I said that you don't know what they were. I don't care if it's limiting someone's personal freedom because it is needed for the genectic quality of the human race to remain high. If you don't like sterilization then I'd be perfectly fine with removing any government aid and just let people who can't suvive die (I would say that this would be a more effective way).

I never said anything about how high my IQ is but since you think I said that you agreed with the allies shows something about your Inteligence.

"No my views are nealy ecactly the same as the United States, France and the United Kingdon when they where fighting the Nazis. You clearly don't know the belifes of the allied powers do you? " This cleally says that I agree with the allies not you.
bilc02

Con

IQ shows the ability to reason maths problems. Why does that have anything to do with who should be able to have sex? Average IQ will never rise above 100% anyway, Because IQ is equal to mental age divided by real age. If I had an IQ of 89 (just below average) and I wasn't aloud to have children because of it, I would think it was totally unfair on me and the other half of people who have less than average IQ. You obviously only care about how good people are at maths, And not if they have a choice what they can do with their lives or not. How is genetic quality decided upon by maths ability?

And by the way, I do know the views of the allies. Conservatism to sum it up in one word. Any why would you let people who can't survive on their own die? That means that disabled people have a huge disadvantage to other people. Why this prejudice?

(Ps. Debate. Org has a spelling checker next to the review button).
Debate Round No. 3
32 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 10 records.
Posted by canis 2 years ago
canis
Well since people with an iq below 90 reproduce better it must be an advantage. Thats evolution. If its a matter of DNA? Sometimes yes. Sometimes no. Did your mother get enought EPA and DHA. Did your mother get enough K2 and so on. . .
Posted by Yoshikage69Kira 2 years ago
Yoshikage69Kira
@billsands you don't have an IQ of 135 lol.
Posted by Yoshikage69Kira 2 years ago
Yoshikage69Kira
@billsands you don't have an IQ of 135 lol.
Posted by billsands 2 years ago
billsands
my iq tested at about 135 but trust me i am usless, Iq test don't measure accurately how well a person will fair in life at all
Posted by billsands 2 years ago
billsands
its tempting but the other guy makes one compelling argument, Humanity this sort of draconian mentality letting the weak and the stupid starve or sterilize them is the stuff of hitler and against what christian civilization has stood for and secular society too, Voluntary birth control and remedial trade schools can do the same or much more for society that forcing people to get fixed, It isnt civilized to force people to give up the most fundamental right, And besides iq tests are far from accurate, Many people with low or modest iq excel above people with hi iqs at some point a high iq stops being a plus and becomes a liabilty many people with high iq are emotionally stunted and can't interact with others, Which you must do, Humans are social creatures we get very little done as individuals groups are usually required to ahcieve, Heirarchical as they might be they work, And so can volutary birth control
Posted by Yoshikage69Kira 2 years ago
Yoshikage69Kira
Also bellow average intelligence is about 85-70 not under 90.
Posted by Yoshikage69Kira 2 years ago
Yoshikage69Kira
The reason why someone with a low IQ shouldn't reproduce is because they are just a cost to society. They leach of hard working people's tax money and have over 8 children who're going to do the same thing! These bums don't even take care of their homes ether, I've been to multiple one of these people's places and it's always filthy! These people if allowed to keep growing will destroy the west!
Posted by Yoshikage69Kira 2 years ago
Yoshikage69Kira
I'm perfectly fine with letting people with down syndrome and other people with disabilities like that die if they can't make the cut.
Posted by Yoshikage69Kira 2 years ago
Yoshikage69Kira
IQ isn't just how good at math you are. The part of intelligence you are thinking about is your logical reasoning ability (You don't just use this math, It's important when trying to grasp a concept for example). You have Multiple other types of intelligence.
Posted by Leaning 2 years ago
Leaning
True regarding the critics.
Incel?
One Wikipedia page later, Ah. A new word learned.
No votes have been placed for this debate.

By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use.