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backwardseden
Pro (for)
The Contender
Ohrnell
Con (against)

Why do people believe in the christian god of the bible that has never been proved?

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/24/2019 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Debating Period
Viewed: 400 times Debate No: 121494
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backwardseden

Pro

Why do people believe in the christian god of the bible that has never been proved in the first place? Is it because people have low self esteem and they believe that believing in this god will help themselves lift their spirits? Probably. Is it because people have not read their bible's and they have no idea whatsoever as to what is stated in it? Probably. Is it because people fear what they don't understand? Probably. Is it because people are stupid and believe in nothing? Probably. Is it because people are amazingly naive and or are phenomenally gullible and will believe in anything and are easily told and or tricked? Probably. There are many "or else" reasons why people believe in the christian so-called god of the bible. But are any of them reasonable? Considering the fact that nobody has proven this so-called god to be real, None of the reasons for believing can be proven as being truthful.

So prove the christian god to be in existence.

dsjpk5 is disqualified from the voting procedures as he tries to pretend he's god and thus change the voting structure of who wins and loses here on DDO.
Ohrnell

Con

I can not prove that god is real. It is all about beliefs.

We know jesus excisted because there are roman writers at the time that wrote about a man who called himself messiah and lived in israel and his name whas written as Christ. You might say Jesus was crazy but he gave clever answers to difficult question quicker than what a mentally ill person could do.

We know that the places in the bible exist like mount Sinai or the pyramids of egypt. We know that about at the time when jesus was born the romans started to write down citizens names as written in the bible. Also many of the miracles in the bible can be explained as very rare natural phenomenons but are possible like when moses called upon a horde of bugs.

But if I ask you this what happens when you die? Nothing? Are you there and a second later you are not? Do you believe that life is only nonexcistance on vacation.
Debate Round No. 1
backwardseden

Pro

"I can not prove that god is real. It is all about beliefs. " Well see to many, Jesus is god. So your statement of. . .

"We know jesus excisted. . . " would be a false claim. So let's continue because regardless "we", Um no its not "we" its you, "because there are roman writers at the time that wrote about a man who called himself messiah and lived in israel and his name whas written as Christ. " doesn't prove anything because anybody can write about anything. And that writing never came to light until about 50 years after this person's so-called death. Well according to the bible, The NT's messiah was indeed 100% crazy and nobody should believe in it regardless.

"We know that the places in the bible exist like mount Sinai or the pyramids of egypt. " Mt. Sinai is awfully vague. Anybody could prove that also. The pyramids of Egypt were never part of the bible. And there's no evidence that Egypt had any slaves to build their monuments in the first place, But that those that did build their monuments were treated extremely well, Unless they were captured cultures from different peoples. Broken bones were treated, They were well fed, They lived in cities so they could build their monuments. They were called "laborers", Not slaves. The bible, Without proof of any kind has it wrong.
https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=FYY4zHN_BxQ - Decoding the Great Pyramid 2019 PBS NOVA - DOCUMENTARY

"We know that about at the time when jesus was born the romans started to write down citizens names as written in the bible. " Oh I see, So are you going to believe everything that is written? I get it. So why wouldn't you believe in the Maya codexes? Or Buddhism, Hinduism, Gaia Mother Earth, Or with limited writing the Cherokee, Or other Native American Indian tribes, The aborigines, Etc etc etc?

"Also many of the miracles in the bible can be explained as very rare natural phenomenons but are possible like when oses called upon a horde of bugs. " Actually all supposed miracles of the bible have been debunked.
https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=L3L1hdWz6do - Christopher Hitchens ridicules Biblical Miracles! (the photography is out of focus)
https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=vJAnCg945EE - Your Miracles Won't Do It - Cristopher Hitchens

"But if I ask you this what happens when you die? Nothing? " Quite possibly. Here's the thing. . . There's nothing wrong with saying "I don't know. " But to those that believe in your god and or pretty near every single every religion ever invented you have an excuse, An out for something that is a "belief". Like to can wait to die so you can experience this mythical place that you only believe in. Now let me ask you this. . . Why not live life to the fullest from something in which you know exists, Which is yourself?
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Posted by Anonymous03 3 years ago
Anonymous03
@backwardseden
"He's debated on over 2100 debates. "
"At least 70 of those debates would've gone into ties. "
Wow. Those statistics do nothing to support your deluded claims. You are one triggered individual.
Posted by Anonymous03 3 years ago
Anonymous03
@backwardseden
"Btw, Votes don't count for anything here. "
You'd only say that if you didn't literally lose 80 times and win 4. You have the lowest W/L rate of anyone on this site. Votes *are* sometimes made by people who don't know what they're doing, But most of them are made by informed decisions of the topic and the conduct of both debaters.

Do you have to be such a cunt to someone who is new? Specially someone who asked a very neutral question that didn't target you?

Do you want to scare people away from this site? You're doing that just fine by the way.
Posted by Anonymous03 3 years ago
Anonymous03
@StevenCrowder
Try telling that to the deluded retard who's posted this exact debate countless times in a row and posts the exact same toxic trash in the comments. Whew. Here we go again.
Posted by StevenCrowder 3 years ago
StevenCrowder
God cannot be proven to exist, Or not to exist. This debate is useless.
Posted by AKmath2 3 years ago
AKmath2
@Forwardseden
Please explain to me what the Historical Jesus is.
Posted by Chronosofwisdom 3 years ago
Chronosofwisdom
I think I understand what you are saying. The stupid was for me, And the rant about voting was for him. I was talking about how you stated that atheists "always" win, When you have lost a disproportionate amount of times compared to the amount of times you have won (4). Tell me again, Do "atheists ---always--- win"?
Posted by backwardseden 3 years ago
backwardseden
@Chronosofwisdom - A stupid response made by a stupid person. Look at who's done the voting who happens to be a racist bigotted pig who lives and breathes simply to vote. Without this one darling little rabbit chew at least 70 of those debates or more would have gone into ties. "I like voting on debates on this website. It troubles me that so many debates end up in a tie here. It seems logical to me that most debates have winner, So I try to find one where I can. I also have a problem with the amount of uncivilized behavior found on this website. I find it unnecessary. Well. . . " https://www. Debate. Org/debates/god-according-to-the-bible-would-not-use-text-as-a-form-of-communication/3/comments/2/
He's voted on over 2100 debates and posted over 5, 000 forum posts. WHO HAS TIME FOR THIS? Only a shriveled up idiot who clearly has no genuine friends or loved ones like you. He thinks he can play god and loves to later debates in his favor. Yep look out for dsjpk5 as he ---always--- votes only one way.
Oh and btw, One vote, Two votes 10 votes, 20 votes in which I have ---never--- seen here on DDO wouldn't even make me blink, 100 votes might be worthy of something.
Posted by Chronosofwisdom 3 years ago
Chronosofwisdom
Yet you have only won four times and lost over eighty times. . .
Posted by backwardseden 3 years ago
backwardseden
@SurbS - See you just joined. So you have no idea, None whatsoever as to how many times, Wow, The subject(s) of "Does God exist? " or"Is it reasonable to believe in God? " has been posted here on DDO. Its gotten to the utterly boring part where atheists always, No exceptions, None, Win. The reason why atheists ---always--- win is that nobody in the entire existence of the human race has ---ever--- proved that the christian god, And or any god, And or anything from the supernatural exists. Btw, Votes don't account for anything here.
Posted by SurbS 3 years ago
SurbS
I don't think this kind of topic is fruitful or leads to interesting discoveries by either party. Maybe rephrasing the question such as, "Does God exist? " or"Is it reasonable to believe in God? " would be appropriate. I would likely debate you on one of those topics if you adjusted the debate question.
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