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Has anyone seen God's face?

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11/23/2019 12:01:44 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Christians are given conflicting stories in the Bible which prevents them from answering in the affirmative Yes or resigning to a resounding No. God still remains a figment of their perverted imagination.

Scriptures that tell us no one saw God because anyone who saw God would not live to talk about it.

Exodus 33:20
But He said, "You cannot see My face, For no man can see Me and live! "


But we know God had no problem with Moses looking at his backside.
Exodus 33:23
"Then I will take My hand away and you shall see My back, But My face shall not be seen. "


Exodus 33:23 tells us God was more comfortable showing his backside than his face.

Which brings us to why the disciples did not recognize Jesus as God.

John 14:9 Jesus replied, "Philip, I have been with you all this time, And still you do not know Me? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

If jesus remembered Exodus 33:23 he would have turned around and showed them his backside.

Exodus 33:23
"Then I will take My hand away and you shall see My back, But My face shall not be seen. "


Instead what they were seeing is also described in scriptures.

Isaiah 53:3 He was despised and rejected by men, A man of sorrows, Acquainted with grief. Like one from whom men hide their faces, He was despised, And we esteemed Him not.

Which was why God also insisted on showing his better side or backside according to scriptures.
Exodus 33:23
"Then I will take My hand away and you shall see My back, But My face shall not be seen. "


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11/23/2019 1:40:14 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
The question is did Jesus see God's face?

John 6:46
"Not that anyone has seen the Father, Except the One who is from God; He has seen the Father.

So how does Jesus describe God. ?

Jesus is the only way to God. Jesus said, "I am the way, And the truth, And the life; no one comes to the Father, But through Me" (John 14:6).

John 14:7 If you had known Me, You would know My Father as well. From now on you do know Him and have seen Him. "

But Jesus did not want anyone to know who or what he was. Why was he ashamed to let people know who he or God was?

Matthew 16:20 Then He admonished the disciples not to tell anyone that He was the Christ.

Now we know why Jesus was reluctant to identify himself to the people.
Jesus was crucified as soon as the Jews and Romans learned who he was.

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11/23/2019 7:49:04 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Has anyone seen God's face?

1. His physical face?
Yes. Enoch and Melchizedek did. Moses and 70 Elders of Israel saw his face before Moses and Israel rejected the translation covenant by fear, And then Israel built the Golden Calf 40 days later--then God vowed they would not see His face and live--meaning translation of the physical body and not some kind of spiritual mumbo jumbo about the body vehicle of pleasure:

Exodus 24:9-11
Then Moses went up, Also Aaron, Nadab, And Abihu, And seventy of the elders of Israel, 10 and they saw the God of Israel. And there was under His feet as it were a paved work of sapphire stone, And it was like the very[b] heavens in its clarity. 11 But on the nobles of the children of Israel He did not [c]lay His hand. So they saw God, And they ate and drank.

After the Golden Calf event, God promised no one would his face of glory to be translated the easy way, Which will happen in the third temple era to see the face of immortal translated beings to "see His face and live". Moses eventually repented of his hitting the rock twice and agreeing Israel to be the middle-man to God and was translated to "see the face of God and live". The Luciferians recorded that Moses died in the Bible with no evidence, Believing it was true because they could not find his body.

God was merciful with Moses after he repented when he realized he was playing the role of God as a mortal man and failed when he hit the rock twice and did not speak to the rock like God would. Lesson learned. After repenting, Moses saw the face of God and lived. God forgets the past as soon as it happens, But Moses was blinded by presumptions. That said, Moses took over 40 years in the wilderness to see his error in his attitude and repent.

2. His metaphysical face? Yes. Many have seen God living in their hearts. "Blessed are the pure in heart, For they shall see God" (Matt 5:8)
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11/23/2019 5:28:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
anonthesmallone wrote:
Has anyone seen God's face?

1. His physical face?
Yes. Enoch and Melchizedek did. Moses and 70 Elders of Israel saw his face before Moses and Israel rejected the translation covenant by fear, And then Israel built the Golden Calf 40 days later--then God vowed they would not see His face and live--meaning translation of the physical body and not some kind of spiritual mumbo jumbo about the body vehicle of pleasure:

Are you claiming Jesus and God are liars?
Based on their words no one has seen God or can see God's face and live.

John 1:18 No one has ever seen God, But the one and only Son, Who is Himself God and is at the Father's side, Has made Him known.

Exodus 33:20 And He added, "You cannot see My face, For no one can see Me and live. " -

Exodus 24:9-11
Then Moses went up, Also Aaron, Nadab, And Abihu, And seventy of the elders of Israel, 10 and they saw the God of Israel. And there was under His feet as it were a paved work of sapphire stone, And it was like the very[b] heavens in its clarity. 11 But on the nobles of the children of Israel He did not [c]lay His hand. So they saw God, And they ate and drank.
The question was, Has anyone seen God's face?
Seeing God from a distance does not qualify.
Even God made it clear they could not see his face and live.
Exodus 33:20 And He added, "You cannot see My face, For no one can see Me and live. "

But they were free to see his better side or backside.
Exodus 33:23 Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen. "


After the Golden Calf event, God promised no one would his face of glory to be translated the easy way, Which will happen in the third temple era to see the face of immortal translated beings to "see His face and live". Moses eventually repented of his hitting the rock twice and agreeing Israel to be the middle-man to God and was translated to "see the face of God and live". The Luciferians recorded that Moses died in the Bible with no evidence, Believing it was true because they could not find his body.

It was Moses who got a bit bolder and asked to see God's glory.
Exodus 33:17 And the Lord said to Moses, "I will do the very thing you have asked, Because I am pleased with you and I know you by name. "

18 Then Moses said, "Now show me your glory. "

God said no, But you can see my backside.
Exodus 33:23 Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen. "

God was merciful with Moses after he repented when he realized he was playing the role of God as a mortal man and failed when he hit the rock twice and did not speak to the rock like God would. Lesson learned. After repenting, Moses saw the face of God and lived. God forgets the past as soon as it happens, But Moses was blinded by presumptions. That said, Moses took over 40 years in the wilderness to see his error in his attitude and repent.

Nowhere does it say God withdrew his order to Moses not to see his face. Nor is there any scriptures Moses repented and was allowed to see God's face.

According to what we read in Numbers (20:1-12) Moses did not enter the promised land because of his sin at the Waters of Meribah, Which took place during the last year of the Israelites' wandering in the wilderness.

In Deuteronomy 32:51"52 God gives the reason that Moses was not permitted to enter the Promised Land: "This is because. . . You broke faith with me in the presence of the Israelites at the waters of Meribah Kadesh in the Desert of Zin and because you did not uphold my holiness among the Israelites. Therefore, You will see the land only from a distance; you will not enter the land I am giving to the people of Israel. " God was true to His promise. He showed Moses the Promised Land, But did not let him enter in.

The incident at the waters of Meribah Kadesh is recorded in Numbers 20. Nearing the end of their forty years of wandering, The Israelites came to the Desert of Zin. There was no water, And the community turned against Moses and Aaron. Moses and Aaron went to the tent of meeting and prostrated themselves before God. God told Moses and Aaron to gather the assembly and speak to the rock. Water would come forth. Moses took the staff and gathered the men. Then, Seemingly in anger, Moses said to them, "Listen, You rebels, Must we bring you water out of this rock? " Then Moses struck the rock twice with his staff (Numbers 20:10"11). Water came from the rock, As God had promised. But God immediately told Moses and Aaron that, Because they failed to trust Him enough to honor Him as holy, They would not bring the children of Israel into the Promised Land (verse 12).

2. His metaphysical face? Yes. Many have seen God living in their hearts. "Blessed are the pure in heart, For they shall see God" (Matt 5:8)
That would contradict God's earlier words.
Exodus 33:20 And He added, "You cannot see My face, For no one can see Me and live. "

Jesus also confirmed in John no one has seen God except the son.
John 6:46 not that anyone has seen the Father except the One who is from God; only He has seen the Father.
John 1:18 No one has ever seen God, But the one and only Son, Who is Himself God and is at the Father's side, Has made Him known.

Anon, You claimed you stood before God on the sea of Glass.
You also added he sent you to DDO to have your brain rearranged. So there are consequence!
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11/23/2019 6:53:23 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Harikrish wrote:

You also added he sent you to DDO to have your brain rearranged. So there are consequence! .
The consequences from God Is the stick of Joseph called the Law of One will kill the blob monster from false religious paradigms to restore our true identity as One Yahweh Elohim living in bodies with faces we can see and live. The scriptures do not say, "No one can see the face of God or they will die". But that is how evil religions interpret the dead book Bible idol.

The Bible is twisted by man. F*ck religions. Yahweh said to use the strong emotional word to indicate Yahweh Elohim is not a religious self-righteous prick judging everyone's heart 24/7 with a dead book Bible idol. To religious people, God is a big imaginary blob monster that is absorbing all the true ideas on the planet about God's face like absorbing all the "born again" people or "true ideas". Ideas have a life of their own. More truth about God's face is in a movie "The Blob" than in any one of the moonlight religions. The blob of the Trinity is an imaginary man-made god without a face.

Genesis 5:1-3
In the day that God created man, He made him in the likeness of God. 2 He created them male and female, And blessed them and called them Mankind in the day they were created. 3 And Adam lived one hundred and thirty years, And begot a son in his own likeness, After his image, And named him Seth.
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11/23/2019 7:21:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Clarification of idea from sea of glass:

The religious God is a big imaginary blob monster that is absorbing all the true ideas on the planet about God's face, Like absorbing all the people who believe they "born again" and any "true ideas" that exist to destroy them.

God works with free will beliefs in the head and is not a "dictator" on the sea of glass. The ideas behind the words did not change, But the words added makes the original idea clearer. . Anon must choose the words to represent the ideas. Sometimes his words fall short of clear communication. Those who stand on the sea of glass will receive the idea and not worship the words themselves and create imaginary ideas that never existed in the mind of God in he first place. This one scripture is a great example of how man has f*cked up the Bible.

The paradigms are too deep in error for the 7. 4+ billion Gentile-Angel-barking-dogs to comprehend the problem in the first place confronting reincarnated Israel. Only occult Israel can see the problem with God's face being misinterpreted in one tiny scripture. The true knowledge is needed to translate reincarnated Israel like popcorn in the third temple era. Better to replace the religions first with the Law of One. Get it yet?
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11/23/2019 9:14:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
anonthesmallone wrote:
Harikrish wrote:

You also added he sent you to DDO to have your brain rearranged. So there are consequence! .
The consequences from God Is the stick of Joseph called the Law of One will kill the blob monster from false religious paradigms to restore our true identity as One Yahweh Elohim living in bodies with faces we can see and live. The scriptures do not say, "No one can see the face of God or they will die". But that is how evil religions interpret the dead book Bible idol.

Moses in Exodus quotes God.
Exodus 33:20 And He added, "You cannot see My face, For no one can see Me and live. "

The Bible is twisted by man. F*ck religions. Yahweh said to use the strong emotional word to indicate Yahweh Elohim is not a religious self-righteous prick judging everyone's heart 24/7 with a dead book Bible idol. To religious people, God is a big imaginary blob monster that is absorbing all the true ideas on the planet about God's face like absorbing all the "born again" people or "true ideas". Ideas have a life of their own. More truth about God's face is in a movie "The Blob" than in any one of the moonlight religions. The blob of the Trinity is an imaginary man-made god without a face.

So the Bible is twisted by man. So why do you quote verses from it?

Genesis 5:1-3
In the day that God created man, He made him in the likeness of God. 2 He created them male and female, And blessed them and called them Mankind in the day they were created. 3 And Adam lived one hundred and thirty years, And begot a son in his own likeness, After his image, And named him Seth.


You are back to quoting the bible again.

But you gave the reason why you were sent to DDO.
You wrote: Correct. Yahweh led me away from Alex Jones to DDO to rearrange my brain.

You were sent to DDO to seek treatment and have your brain rearranged. Only DDO has a free head slapping clinic listed under Harikrish Spiritual Shaming Detox Centre.
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11/23/2019 9:58:23 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Harikrish wrote:
anonthesmallone wrote:
Harikrish wrote:

You also added he sent you to DDO to have your brain rearranged. So there are consequence! .
The consequences from God Is the stick of Joseph called the Law of One will kill the blob monster from false religious paradigms to restore our true identity as One Yahweh Elohim living in bodies with faces we can see and live. The scriptures do not say, "No one can see the face of God or they will die". But that is how evil religions interpret the dead book Bible idol.

Moses in Exodus quotes God.
Exodus 33:20 And He added, "You cannot see My face, For no one can see Me and live. "

The Bible is twisted by man. F*ck religions. Yahweh said to use the strong emotional word to indicate Yahweh Elohim is not a religious self-righteous prick judging everyone's heart 24/7 with a dead book Bible idol. To religious people, God is a big imaginary blob monster that is absorbing all the true ideas on the planet about God's face like absorbing all the "born again" people or "true ideas". Ideas have a life of their own. More truth about God's face is in a movie "The Blob" than in any one of the moonlight religions. The blob of the Trinity is an imaginary man-made god without a face.

So the Bible is twisted by man. So why do you quote verses from it?

Genesis 5:1-3
In the day that God created man, He made him in the likeness of God. 2 He created them male and female, And blessed them and called them Mankind in the day they were created. 3 And Adam lived one hundred and thirty years, And begot a son in his own likeness, After his image, And named him Seth.


You are back to quoting the bible again.

But you gave the reason why you were sent to DDO.
You wrote: Correct. Yahweh led me away from Alex Jones to DDO to rearrange my brain.

You were sent to DDO to seek treatment and have your brain rearranged. Only DDO has a free head slapping clinic listed under Harikrish Spiritual Shaming Detox Centre.

What do you mean?
Turn the light of the third eye and live (Ezekiel 18)
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11/23/2019 10:02:56 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
anonthesmallone wrote:
Harikrish wrote:
anonthesmallone wrote:
Harikrish wrote:

You also added he sent you to DDO to have your brain rearranged. So there are consequence! .
The consequences from God Is the stick of Joseph called the Law of One will kill the blob monster from false religious paradigms to restore our true identity as One Yahweh Elohim living in bodies with faces we can see and live. The scriptures do not say, "No one can see the face of God or they will die". But that is how evil religions interpret the dead book Bible idol.

Moses in Exodus quotes God.
Exodus 33:20 And He added, "You cannot see My face, For no one can see Me and live. "

The Bible is twisted by man. F*ck religions. Yahweh said to use the strong emotional word to indicate Yahweh Elohim is not a religious self-righteous prick judging everyone's heart 24/7 with a dead book Bible idol. To religious people, God is a big imaginary blob monster that is absorbing all the true ideas on the planet about God's face like absorbing all the "born again" people or "true ideas". Ideas have a life of their own. More truth about God's face is in a movie "The Blob" than in any one of the moonlight religions. The blob of the Trinity is an imaginary man-made god without a face.

So the Bible is twisted by man. So why do you quote verses from it?

Genesis 5:1-3
In the day that God created man, He made him in the likeness of God. 2 He created them male and female, And blessed them and called them Mankind in the day they were created. 3 And Adam lived one hundred and thirty years, And begot a son in his own likeness, After his image, And named him Seth.


You are back to quoting the bible again.

But you gave the reason why you were sent to DDO.
You wrote: Correct. Yahweh led me away from Alex Jones to DDO to rearrange my brain.

You were sent to DDO to seek treatment and have your brain rearranged. Only DDO has a free head slapping clinic listed under Harikrish Spiritual Shaming Detox Centre.

What do you mean?

You wrote: Correct. Yahweh led me away from Alex Jones to DDO to rearrange my brain.

You were sent to DDO to get your brain rearranged. So you were sent to DDO to get your head slapped. The only one offering free head slapping on DDO is Harikrish Spiritual Shaming Detox Centre.
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11/23/2019 10:10:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
anonthesmallone wrote:
What do you mean?

You should know what you meant when you said:

You wrote: Correct. Yahweh led me away from Alex Jones to DDO to rearrange my brain.
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11/23/2019 10:59:54 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
is there any evidence this was fulfilled.
Exodus 33:20 And He added, "You cannot see My face, For no one can see Me and live. "

Jesus also confirmed in John no one has seen God except the son.
John 6:46 not that anyone has seen the Father except the One who is from God; only He has seen the Father.
John 1:18 No one has ever seen God, But the one and only Son, Who is Himself God and is at the Father's side, Has made Him known.

Jesus saw God's face and he was the only one who did not live Jesus was crucified. Moses who only saw God's backside lived to a ripe old age. Should God have thought through his promise?
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11/23/2019 11:18:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Did Moses curiosity embarrass God?
Moses asked God as man to man:
Exodus 33:18 Then Moses said, "Now show me your glory. "

Surely Moses had seen the glorious things God had done for the Jews. So the show me was a challenge to God to show his manhood/penis.

It is this call by Moses that caused God to warn. No one can see it. No one may see it and live.

But oddly God had no problem with Moses seeing his backside.

Exodus 33: 23 Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen. "
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11/24/2019 4:24:48 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
In western countries if a person is seen naked they quickly try to cover their private part to hide their shame.

In Asian countries the person would immediately cover their face instead so they will not be recognized.

God not being Asian or Western did not want Moses to see his face but took his hand away so Moses could see his backside.

Exodus 33:23 Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen. "

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