Good to see you! Amazed you held out so long!Posted 3 years Ago

In part for nostalgia, in part to try to delete or hide my old, misguided posts, I've logged in again for the first time in about three years. I was wondering how the site was doing. When I left, things were buggy and spam filled. Debating was time-consuming and voting difficult. Most of the debates were won by someone leaving halfway.

As I (briefly) return, I am struck by familiar faces. I must say, I've been impressed by all of your perseverance! The website itself seems wholly unchanged in structure--with all of the same old problems as before. So many trolls, so much spam, and too few good debates.

I remember too that voting ended up being pretty biased--because the only way to get good votes was to request them from people you are already friends with. This was necessary, because lively debates were buried under mountains of trollish, spammy, or far too casual debates. One couldn't notice the actual debates.

And so, I remember that debates ended up being something of a popularity contest--if you know more people who are willing to vote your way, you could win. It was unfortunate.

Based off of the threads I've seen, little has changed. I admire all of your commitments--I can't imagine how much time you've spent over the years! YYW, TUF, Blade, airmax, bsh1, Danielle, Romanii--wow! It's nice to read from you again.

If you find a website that has better privacy options for debates, let me know! Best of luck everyone, and happy debating!
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Debatability and Thett3: Campaign PlatformPosted 6 years Ago

At 6/2/2015 12:45:35 AM, debatability wrote:
Hello DDO! As I previously announced, thett3 and I are running for DDO office. Now, on to our platform.

There are two major things that need to be discussed. Firstly, the things that are completely under our control. Secondly, things that are up in the air (like Juggle's relationship with DDO).

Community Development

There are various parts of the website which need improvement. I will be going over various goals thett and I have that will facilitate the production of quality content. Ultimately, our goal is to get members involved in producing quality content and running quality projects, rather than doing everything ourselves.

The Forums

The main way I will be working towards facilitating quality discussion on the forums is through "topics of the week." I have already instituted this during my short time as president and hope to see it continue. If you look at the religion, philosophy, economics, and politics forums you will see insightful OP's written by various members. These OP's are stickied to help them gain attention. Ideally, every week a new OP will be written. This project has gained quite some attention and many members have signed up:https://docs.google.com.........
This is a perfect example of putting projects into the hands of members of DDO, rather than having one person doing everything themselves. Members that specialize in specific topics become engaged in writing an OP's and replying to posts. Additionally, forums that are used less gain more activity.
As with all of the projects I am wanting to institute, this is a flexible system. If it turns out members prefer monthly or bi-weekly topics, I will take those concerns into account.

Tournaments / Debates

Thett and I will be working towards reforming the tournament system to better suit the needs of the community. I made a discussion thread about potential changes here: http://www.debate.org.........
I strongly feel that the monthly system previously instituted during Ore's term is too much. In order to reduce burnout and ensure that tournaments actually finish, I propose a bi-monthly system as opposed to a monthly system. (Note: This does not apply to the beginners tournament).

1. More Live Debates: This can be either done by creating a tournament specifically for live debate, or recruiting volunteers to do a live debate weekly. Either way, more live debates is a good thing. Live debates spur quality discussion both prior to the debate via google hangouts, and through RFD's.

Member Outreach

1. Work on the "New Members Read Me" thread: There are several filler spots on this thread that have yet to be completed. I will be working with airmax to decide what can be added to make the thread more helpful.
2. Beginners Tournaments: I intend to continue these tournaments. Beginners tournament should be run in a similar way to beginners mafia. After the current tournament ends, the next one starts. This is more productive than a monthly system because (like with regular tournament reform) it will reduce burnout. I have seen many beginners tournaments dissolve entirely, though they are unfinished, simply because a new one has started.
This month I am running the tournament and I found that there are many members are highly active in the opinions section, yet not so active on other parts of the site. Upon reaching out to these members, I found that many of them were interested in debating and were happy to join the tournament. Those who are running beginners tournaments in the future will be encouraged to not only look at members that just joined, but also members that don't engage in debates.

Voting

1. Terrible RFD of the Week: I believe this ought to be reinstated, as it was a very productive way of critiquing RFD's in an unbiased manner. Members can volunteer to critique RFD's of a particular debate that raised controversy. Users like YYW, whiteflame, and bluesteel have all created highly insightful threads of this nature.
2. Voting Incentives: Just like tournaments can incite quality debates, they should also incite quality votes. I hope to institute a means of "judging votes" in a competitive manner during tournaments to give not only the debaters an incentive, but also the judges.

Technical Development

This is slightly tougher to talk about, because it involves Juggle. I have talked with airmax in depth about this situation and can say the following:
1. At this point, Juggle's level of interest towards DDO is completely unknown.
2. Thinking of this point in time as "DDO's last hope of communicating with juggle" doesn't make sense. Their contact with DDO has always been sporadic. They could be inactive for half a year, then later try express interest in the site.
3. Whatever the outcome, Airmax will recommend the victor of the election to Juggle as the sites liason.
4. If elected, thett and I will work hard to re establish contact with juggle and make a case to them about the site and the mobile update, and how it harms their bottom line of profit. As our major priority, we will do everything we can to get juggle engaged and get them to fix the problems stemming from the update.

Making a large list of potential updates for juggle to complete is unrealistic at this point due to juggles current detachment. If juggle does respond well, we will work towards other areas of site improvement. However, fixing the mobile update is what really matters now.

Thett and I both deeply care about the wellbeing of the site and hope we can count on your support throughout the election.

Does your campaign have any plans to support women and minorities on DDO?
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Who is president?Posted 7 years Ago

Thanks everyone! I appreciate it!

I guess it goes without saying that Airmax is still being generally amazing?
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Who is president?Posted 7 years Ago

I've been out of it for awhile, loL!

Who is president of DDO now? Who are the moderators--still Blade and Airmax? Also, if there are people helping out the president, who are they?
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Word from MikalPosted 7 years Ago

At 5/8/2015 5:14:23 PM, Juan_Pablo wrote:
At 5/8/2015 12:28:33 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
Mikal asked me to inform you all, that he is now perma-banned, so 'everything is resolved,' and to tell you all goodbye.

I understand Mikal's inner anger. But, it was his pursuit for absolute freedom that led to this. No one should have absolute freedom . . . it's not healthy and it's not conducive to life.

There's a dif between freedom and entitlement. He was not for freedom--he was metaphorically crapping on people for saying things he didn't like. But I pretty much agree with your analysis.
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Word from MikalPosted 7 years Ago

At 5/8/2015 4:14:25 PM, SamStevens wrote:
At 5/8/2015 12:34:26 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
"for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."

He brought a temp-ban on himself with egregious conduct. Then, he literally got himself perma-banned. There is no wording I could use to describe how stupid his actions were in the past several hours, and again - he brought it on himself.

What exactly happened? May you give me a short description on what transpired?

It's on here: http://ddo.wikia.com...
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Word from MikalPosted 7 years Ago

At 5/8/2015 4:04:43 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 5/8/2015 3:15:59 PM, kbub wrote:
At 5/8/2015 12:31:43 AM, bsh1 wrote:
I think it is universally acknowledged that Mikal crossed a line and that a temp ban was in order. But, I agree that a temp-ban doesn't necessitate him leaving the site forever.

That was his own decision. I suspect he's interested in accruing sympathy, which I'll grant him. It's hard to be banned, and embarrassing. But like the perma-ban instead of the temp-ban, Mikal knowingly and actively chose it.

I agree, and I think the site will be calmer for his departure; however, my point was he did not have to chose it. He could've chosen to become a polite and productive member of the site.

I completely agree. You said it far more eloquently.
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Word from MikalPosted 7 years Ago

At 5/8/2015 3:26:13 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/8/2015 12:28:33 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
Mikal asked me to inform you all, that he is now perma-banned, so 'everything is resolved,' and to tell you all goodbye.

So much drama.

This site is not your family. At some point everyone moves on. If he wanted too, good for him.

+1
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Word from MikalPosted 7 years Ago

At 5/8/2015 12:31:43 AM, bsh1 wrote:
I think it is universally acknowledged that Mikal crossed a line and that a temp ban was in order. But, I agree that a temp-ban doesn't necessitate him leaving the site forever.

That was his own decision. I suspect he's interested in accruing sympathy, which I'll grant him. It's hard to be banned, and embarrassing. But like the perma-ban instead of the temp-ban, Mikal knowingly and actively chose it.
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Nepal Earthquake is a reminder...Posted 7 years Ago

At 5/7/2015 11:04:59 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 5/7/2015 10:51:54 PM, kbub wrote:
At 5/6/2015 5:26:48 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
"The death and suffering caused by this earthquake is a reminder of sin and the severe consequences that rebellion against our Creator brings"

https://answersingenesis.org...

"It's important to know that such tragedy is not God's fault, it's our fault because of our sin in Adam."

Shouldn't we have moved beyond explaining natural disasters as the dissatisfaction or warning from the gods?

I've got a better (not hard), more relevant (not hard) reminder about obeying our Creator than the earthquake: Don't sell illegal weapons that were banned by your own treaty! There seems to be a stronger relationship between that sin, and the 1000 who just recently die from being cluster bombed in Yemen from Saudis with the weapons the US illegally sold them. The blood is on the US' hands, as much as anyone's.

http://www.youtube.com...

This is the religion forum, bub, so the politics talk is definitely off topic. FYI your source says the US , Saudi Arabia, and Yemen have not banned these weapons (0:58), so there is no violation of any treaty. (thought you might like to know)

Thanks for the correction! I heard Saudi Arabia and Yemen, but I didn't hear US.

On a different topic--I feel you on the separation of politics and religion. The way I grew up, these were strictly separated topics. However, as I'm growing I think there may be more of an overlap. I agree that the earthquake should not be attributed to God's wrath. However, I was hoping to propose that maybe there IS a place for a religious commentary in politics--simple things, such as stopping oppression and murder. The things I was saying reflected my hope about what religion could become (not to understate the important ways it already functions)--a community of voices decrying ethical violations and violence.

Although I do empathize with the position that religion can often interact badly with politics. But not always, I think.
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