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Hong Kong should be recognized as a sovereign state.

Asked by: DMcLemore
  • It would weaken china and lessens the threat to U. S. Allies

    While we can pretend that china is our friend they most defiantly are not. They are a "communist state" meaning they are run by a brutal dictatorship, The media is censored, They are one of our biggest threats. Hong Kong is a major financial hub and is of strategic value. A independent Hong Kong would likely align with the U. S. In creasing our global influence. This also take the pressure off of Taiwan as Chinese attention is focused on Hong Kong. Losing such a economically important city cripples the Chinese economy and makes them less of a threat to America.

  • Jean-Jacques Rousseau writes: "Force does not constitute right. . . Obedience is due only to legitimate powers. "

    Hong Kong was a British colony beginning in 1841, And this lasted, With the exception of a brief Japanese occupation in the 1940s, During this time, Hong Kong operated under English law and were recognized as citizens of Britain before being designated to British nationals, Free from the oppressive regime of the Chinese Communist Party that came to dominate the mainland. Now, With the UK having agreed to return Hong Kong's sovereignty to China with an expiration date on its autonomy and freedom from mainland rule (1 July, 2047), The CCP has moved to crack down on the freedom Hong Kongers have enjoyed for over a century.

    In February, 2019, The CCP-dominated government of Hong Kong introduced a bill that would allow Hong Kongers to be extradited to China. The dangers of this are well-known, And the CCP is no stranger to causing dissenters to simply "disappear. " Understandably, Concerned citizens have begun to rise up; the CCP was (before recently placing the bill on hold) attempting to violate its promise of autonomy to them.

    I feel as though the CCP's violation of this agreement in itself should be grounds for a legitimate secession from the mainland, But beyond that, It comes down to a fundamental question of sovereignty. When the majority of people in a given state don't consent to be governed by a specific entity, Why should they? I feel like Rousseau's quote sums the matter up best: "Force does not constitute right. . . Obedience is due only to legitimate powers. "

    Free Hong Kong.

  • As uneducated on this topic as I am, It's to my understanding that Hong Kong is very much under China's control anyway.

    I understand that DMcLemore believes that the extradition treaty is a violation of autonomy but isn't that only if it is abused? I don't think it's fair to say that an extradition treaty is solely created to use to make people 'disappear', From what I've heard the whole extradition treaty controversy started when a literal criminal used Hong Kong to escape capture in the first place.
    That certainly isn't a reason for Hong Kong to literally become its' own soverign state.

  • It's not realistic.

    Mainland China has been determined to regain what it perceives as its de jure and historical territory, Including Taiwan and beyond to the South China Sea. If Beijing has been more than adamant for the eventual reunification with Taiwan, Even through military means as they have said, What makes anyone think they wouldn't be adamant about sovereignty over Hong Kong.

    The will of the people of Hong Kong is, Unfortunately for them, Irrelevant to reality. Reality cares much more about the balance of powers in the Pacific and that means China will hold Hong Kong by any means necessary. A forcefully independent Hong Kong will only invite the possibility of military conflict and instability in the pacific region.

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